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    DSF 2017 DSF/DSSH At-Cost Pickup - PTD Pickup Rule Tweak pg 33

    I am offering up my services to do at-cost pickups from DSF.

    The types of pins that I will have available:
    ~ Pin Trader Delights (PTDs)
    ~ Advertised monthly release pins
    ~ Pins left over from previous releases
    ~ Open edition/rack pins

    Surprise releases (both during advertised monthly releases and standalone surprise releases) are generally not for sale, unless I post otherwise. Additionally, if a pin is released that goes into any of my collections, I will most likely keep the first of that pin that I am able to get.

    As I cannot go every evening and cannot always pull a good number at a release, I cannot guarantee that I can fulfill every request. But I will try to go as often as I can. I will not take payment until I have the pin(s) in hand, but I ask that you only sign up for a pin if you fully intend to purchase.

    Unless specified otherwise, all pins picked up for this thread will be sold as random drawings. I will make a list for each pin of everyone who wants that pin, in the order the requests were posted. After I have the pin in hand, I will use randomizer.org to pick a random number from the list, and that person is allowed to purchase the pin at cost.

    You may request more than one of a pin, but your second pin will only be picked up after everyone else's first pin (even if they made the request after yours).

    Please note that I am only shipping these pickups to US addresses.
    International buyers are welcome to order as long as they either have their own US address or have a friend/family member/other PF user that I can ship to. (Please make sure you have their permission beforehand! )

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    Pricing Info and Pickup Rules

    Pricing

    All prices listed in this sales thread are the pin price plus sales tax (8.75%) for each pin.


    For each total order (not per pin), the following additional fees apply:

    Parking fee - $2 (this fee is waived for pickups during monthly releases)
    Shipping - $3 for the first three pins, $.25 for each additional pin after
    Paypal goods fee - 2.9% of total cost plus $.30 (I compute this using http://thefeecalculator.com/ )



    Pin Pickup Rules

    Monthly Releases
    ~ The first set of pins I pick up for drawing will be one per person, no matter how many people are signed up. If a person's name is drawn for more than one pin, they will get to choose which of the pins they want, and the other pin(s) will be rerolled. If their name is drawn for another pin from that set during a later drawing, they can swap out and the first pin will be rerolled.

    ~ If a release is popular (at least eight people signed up for each pin, OR if at least one pin from the set has 12 or more people signed up), the next two rounds of drawings will still be one per person.

    ~ If a release is not popular (seven or less people signed up for each pin AND no pin having 12 or more people signed up), the next two rounds will go to a limit of two per person. If a person wins one pin from round one and this rule is in effect, they can win one more pin from these two rounds. If they win one pin during round one and two or more pins during rounds two and three, they can choose up to two pins total - the other(s) will be rerolled.

    Pin popularity is determined by the number of people signed up when I am ready to roll the first drawing, and applies to the set rather than each individual pin.
    This means that if a pin set goes under the popularity benchmark after a few rounds of pickups (say, thirteen people are signed up for a pin and it drops to eleven after two rounds of drawings), it will still count as popular if it started that way; similarly, if a pin goes over the popularity benchmark after a few rounds of drawings due to people signing up later, it will still count as unpopular if it did during the first roll. Even if only one pin from a set qualifies as popular, the entire set will be classified as such - for instance, if one pin has twenty people signed up and the others have three people each.


    ~ Starting with pickup round four, the pin limit will be dropped and any person rolled as a winner from this point onward will win whatever they are rolled for.



    PTDs

    ~ The first five rounds of PTDs picked up for drawing will be one per person regardless of which PTDs are picked up (I will always pick up the two that have the most people signed up). If a person is chosen for one PTD and wins another during a later round, they can choose which one to keep and the other will be rerolled.

    ~ For pickup round six and on, the limit will be dropped.




    Secondary Winners List

    If a person is picked for more than one pin - either for releases or for PTDs - they will be added to a secondary winners list for the pin(s) they did not choose. This list will come into play if a pin outlasts the number of non-duplicate winners signed up for it. If I run out of people from the original list and am still able to pick up that pin, I will pick the winner from this secondary winner list. This is one of the few times where the person will be chosen sequentially rather than random drawing (so the first person on this list will get the first pin available to the list). Pins from this list are exempt from the per-person limit, even if it is in play for other pins from the set.
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    Completed Pickup List

    Color Code:
    black = have not invoiced yet
    grey = pm sent
    teal = invoiced
    orange = paid/partial paid but waiting to ship
    green= paid and ready to ship
    blue = second invoice sent
    red = final invoice sent
    purple = shipped


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    Pengy: Inside Out Calendar
    Kiragigi: Roquefort, Up Nesting Doll Set, Claude Frollo Cutie
    Luki: Jessica Rabbit Pin+Postcard
    disneykins: Deacon Owl PTD, Beauty and the Beast Now Playing at El Capitan, Anita PTD, Dawson PTD, Roscoe/DeSoto PTD, Suzy/Perla, Rescuers Down Under, Church Mice, Fa Li PTD, Ichabod Crane PTD, Princess Eilonwy PTD, Andrina PTD, Taran PTD, Gideon PTD
    GrumpyDad: Suzy/Perla, Up Nesting Doll Set, Rhino Guard PTD, Aquata PTD, Roger Radcliffe PTD, Mother Gothel Cutie, Andrina PTD
    disneymagic: Born in China Marquee, Katrina Van Tassel PTD
    Tds: Lady Tremaine Cutie, Claude Frollo Cutie
    Hambee2: Taran PTD
    KT07: Jack/Sally Valentine

    Powerline's Number 1 Fan: Dr. Dawson PTD
    kairi08: Andrina PTD, Horace PTD
    maiarebecca:
    Birds PTD
    Spr75psu: Rowlf PTD
    Motba: Rowlf PTD


    Princess: Claude Frollo Cutie, Andrina PTD, Patriotic Jessica Rabbit, Gideon PTD
    natelove: Claude Frollo Cutie
    Vixy: Cinderella Father's Day Surprise

    nemo558: Patriotic Dumbo

    cristywill: Andrina PTD



    Disneychildwithin: Rhino Guard PTD, Roger Radcliffe PTD, Katrina Van Tassel PTD, WALL-E W, Mother Gothel Cutie, Mickey PTD, Muses PTD, Alameda Slim PTD, Taran PTD (ship after Andrina/Taran PTD drawings), Gideon PTD
    FoolishMortal71: Pluto P, Queen of Hearts Q, Sleeping Beauty S (ship with Japan framed set pin), Andrina PTD
    NewlyAddicted: Katrina Van Tassel PTD



    akbecker246: Claude Frollo Cutie (give in person at release)
    xdattax: Magic Facilier (give in person at DSF)
    tinkerbelle1956: Beauty and the Beast Now Playing at El Capitan, Church Mice, Patriotic Jessica Rabbit, Taran PTD, Horace PTD
    Mickeymousje: Ursula Ornament

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    *nemo558 - next shipment includes free shipping
    * SoraPandora - next shipment includes free shipping
    * starry_solo/jadeites-lady - credit for one PTD
    * GrumpyDad and disneykins ships together



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    Pins Available for Order


    PTDs - $16.88 each ($15.45 + $1.43 tax)
    (Old price $16.80 - $15.45 + $1.35 tax)

    Rowlf

    Older Limited Edition Pins


    Alphabet Set (Pluto, Queen of Hearts, Robin Hood, Sleeping Beauty) - $54.32 ($49.95 + $4.37 tax)
    Alphabet Set (Tigger, Ursula, Vanellope, WALL-E) - $54.32 ($49.95 + $4.37 tax)

    Yzma Ornament - $20.61 ($18.95 + $1.66 tax)


    Current Limited Edition Pins

    See posts below.


    Open Edition Pins

    $7.56 each ($6.95 + $.61 tax)

    El Capitan logo
    Russell with popcorn
    Tigger
    Pinocchio


    $9.73 each ($8.95 + $.78 tax)

    King Candy
    Alice
    Rapunzel
    Dumbo
    Ursula
    Ariel
    Stitch
    Lotso
    Vanellope
    Eeyore


    $10.82 each ($9.95 + $.87 tax)

    Mickey and Minnie

    $13.00 each ($11.95 + $1.05 tax)

    Jessica Rabbit pin and postcard


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    Leftovers

    I occasionally have additional pins up for grabs. These could be pins that people had to cancel orders for after I picked them up and there are no waiting lists for, or pins I got to keep and then changed my mind on, or pins that I miscalculated how many I needed to pick up and grabbed an extra of. If it's listed here, you only need to post that you want it and it's yours.

    Currently Available Pins

    None now - check in later!
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    PTD Random Drawings

    PTDs are sold via random drawing. If you want any PTDs from the current set, post in this thread with which pin(s) you want to try for. I will pick up as many PTDs as I can, and do random drawings as I am able to get them.

    CURRENT SET



    Entries

    Rowlf
    1. maiarebecca
    2. FoolishMortal71
    3. hopemax
    4. Hambee2
    5. unibear
    6. GrumpyDad
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    Non-PTD Pickup Waiting Lists



    Alphabet Set Co-op

    Each individual pin will be $13.58. Set will be purchased and split up once every spot has been claimed. If there is one person signed up for the spot they get it automatically; if more than one is signed up I will draw a name.


    (P)luto - Mickeyplutofan
    (Q)ueen of Hearts -
    (R)obin Hood - speedwaystar1, Spr175psu, Disneychildwithin
    (S)leeping Beauty - Spr175psu


    (T)igger - tinawap
    (U)rsula -
    (V)anellope -
    (W)ALL-E - tinawap
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    July Releases


    HOOBOY, this month is a doozy!

    As of now, I am planning on keeping all pins from each of the in-person releases. I will be taking names in case the limit is raised to two per person, if I change my mind, or if they happen to last past the release to secondary pickups.

    Online Bambi/Beloved Tales release: I will not be taking names for these. If I am lucky enough to get in and purchase them, I will be keeping the Beloved Tales, and I honestly will probably be so focused on getting those that I will pass on the Bambi pins entirely. If I do wind up getting the Bambis and decide to hold drawings for them, I will take names for a few days and do one drawing.

    If I do not wind up getting them, I will be looking to trade for or purchase one Inside Out and two Zootopias; if I do get a set I will be looking to trade for or purchase a second Zootopia (either the Big Hero 6 one, or we can work out something with other DSF/WDI pins).



    Cursive Cuties - $20.61 each ($18.95 + $1.66 tax)

    Thumper
    1. disneykins
    2. theoucharis
    3. Spr175psu
    4. MomeRathsOutgrabe
    5. NewlyAddicted
    6. jngmd
    7. Booger1964
    8. maiarebecca
    9. Haunted575
    10. Motba
    11. MJSM
    12. cristywill
    13. Pengy
    14. Ocean7
    15. tinkerbelle1956


    Stitch
    1. unibear
    2. disneykins
    3. theoucharis
    4. Spr175psu
    5. natelove
    6. NewlyAddicted
    7. jngmd
    8. Booger1964
    9. maiarebecca
    10. Ocean7
    11. froggerway
    12. Haunted575
    13. Motba
    14. IronChef
    15. Mickeyplutofan
    16. AidanShepard
    17. ScarletReign
    18. akbecker246
    19. tinkerbelle1956
    20. Pinfun
    21. mickeymousje
    2. tinawap


    Dumbo
    1. disneykins
    2. theoucharis
    3. Disneychildwithin
    4. hopemax
    5. Spr175psu
    6. NewlyAddicted
    7. Booger1964
    8. maiarebecca
    9. Ocean7
    10. Haunted575
    11. Motba
    12. cristywill
    13. tinkerbelle1956
    14. Pinfun


    Pegasus
    1. disneykins
    2. MerlinEmrys
    3. theoucharis
    4. Disneychildwithin
    5. kairi08
    6. Spr175psu
    7. MomeRathsOutgrabe
    8. NewlyAddicted
    9. Booger1964
    10. maiarebecca
    11. froggerway
    12. Haunted575
    13. Motba
    14. Mickeyplutofan
    15. Ocean7
    16. tinkerbelle1956
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    August Releases



    I will be keeping all pins from both releases, plus an additional Lion King marquee and Zootopia postcard if the limit is two per person. I will be taking names in case the limit is raised to two per person or if they happen to last past the release to secondary pickups.


    Lion King -$20.61 each ($18.95 + $1.66 tax)

    Marquee
    1. NewlyAddicted
    2. theoucharis
    3. Spr175psu
    4. disneykins
    5. froggerway
    6. maiarebecca
    7. Mickeyplutofan
    8. Princess
    9. MomeRathsOutgrabe
    10. Motba
    11. tinkerbelle1956
    12. Disneychildwithin
    13. Pengy
    14. ScarletReign
    15. ThisIsSimba1
    16. sockgnome
    17. Booger1964


    Scar Stained Glass
    1. NewlyAddicted
    2. theoucharis
    3. Spr175psu
    4. disneykins
    5. froggerway
    6. maiarebecca
    7. Mickeyplutofan
    8. MomeRathsOutgrabe
    9. Motba
    10. tinkerbelle1956
    11. Disneychildwithin
    12. Pengy
    13. ScarletReign
    14. Booger1964


    Rafiki Stained Glass
    1. NewlyAddicted
    2. theoucharis
    3. Spr175psu
    4. disneykins
    5. froggerway
    6. maiarebecca
    7. Mickeyplutofan
    8. MomeRathsOutgrabe
    9. Motba
    10. tinkerbelle1956
    11. Disneychildwithin
    12. Pengy
    13. ScarletReign
    14. Booger1964


    Timon and Pumbaa Stained Glass
    1. NewlyAddicted
    2. theoucharis
    3. Spr175psu
    4. disneykins
    5. froggerway
    6. maiarebecca
    7. Mickeyplutofan
    8. MomeRathsOutgrabe
    9. Motba
    10. tinkerbelle1956
    11. Disneychildwithin
    12. Pengy
    13. momin.ator
    14. ScarletReign
    15. Booger1964



    Postcards - $20.61 each ($18.95 + $1.66 tax)

    Lilo and Stitch/Kauai
    1. NewlyAddicted
    2. theoucharis
    3. Spr175psu
    4. disneykins
    5. MerlinEmrys
    6. froggerway
    7. xdattax
    8. maiarebecca
    9. natelove
    10. Mickeyplutofan
    11. Tokaji
    12. Princess
    13. TammyH
    14. starry_solo
    15. Ocean7
    16. unibear
    17. Motba
    18. tinkerbelle1956
    19. pins4twin
    20. MuppetsManiac
    21. ScarletReign
    22. IronChef
    23. FoolishMortal71
    24. Pinfun
    25. sockgnome
    26. Booger1964
    27. tinawap


    Up/Paradise Falls
    1. NewlyAddicted
    2. theoucharis
    3. Spr175psu
    4. disneykins
    5. MerlinEmrys
    6. caw caw rawr
    7. maiarebecca
    8. Mickeyplutofan
    9. Tokaji
    10. Princess
    11. TammyH
    12. starry_solo
    13. MomeRathsOutgrabe
    14. Ocean7
    15. Motba
    16. tinkerbelle1956
    17. Pengy
    18. MuppetsManiac
    19. FoolishMortal71
    20. Pinfun
    21. sockgnome
    22. Booger1964


    Zootopia
    1. NewlyAddicted
    2. theoucharis
    3. Spr175psu
    4. disneykins
    5. MerlinEmrys
    6. froggerway
    7. maiarebecca
    8. Mickeyplutofan
    9. Tokaji
    10. Princess
    11. TammyH
    12. starry_solo
    13. Ocean7
    14. Motba
    15. tinkerbelle1956
    16. MuppetsManiac
    17. FoolishMortal71
    18. Pinfun
    19. sockgnome
    20. Booger1964


    Big Hero 6/San Fransokyo
    1. NewlyAddicted
    2. theoucharis
    3. Spr175psu
    4. disneykins
    5. MerlinEmrys
    6. maiarebecca
    7. Mickeyplutofan
    8. Tokaji
    9. Princess
    10. TammyH
    11. starry_solo
    12. Ocean7
    13. Motba
    14. tinkerbelle1956
    15. MuppetsManiac
    16. FoolishMortal71
    17. Pinfun
    18. sockgnome
    19. Booger1964
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    I have the posts I need, so this thread is now open for posting.

    The information was copied directly from the old thread, but if I have copied over something incorrectly or missed adding you in the first place from a post over there, please let me know and I'll update it ASAP.
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    Here's to another year of amazingness! Thanks Tessa!

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    Thank you, Tessa!! Cheers to you for a Happy and Healthy New Year!

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    Good news - DSF just posted the rules for Saturday's mouse release. They are allowing two per person. Which means that if I am able to make it to the release and I get a good number, I will have at least one of each pin to do drawings (I'm leaning towards keeping Dormouse and one or two others).

    I am expecting a very low turnout for these (it's the first release after Christmas, there hasn't been a lot of chatter on Facebook for preorders for these, and it's virtually guaranteed that the PTDs aren't flipping), so I am leaning towards going since the line should move quickly. If I do have to skip it, though, there is also a good chance that most or all of them will be available after the release.
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    Yay! Tessa the magnificent! This is so well organized. I love it! XD

    Here's to another awesome year! Thanks for making so much magic happen!! <3

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    Hey Tessa, I also think I shall take my name off the list for the Reluctant Dragon. In anticipation for the EPCOT Festival of the Arts, I'm hoping for some Fine Art Figment pins. /nod Thank so much for all you do! <3

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    Please add me to the list for Bolt with Penny, thanks!

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    Removed and added, respectively.
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    Add me for Roquefort drawing, please! Thank you!

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    Please add me to the Gus & Jaq and Timothy drawing as well. Thank you, Tessa.

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    First, a pricing update: As of January 1st, DSF is now charging 10% sales tax. (I wasn't expecting it to go up a whole percent!) I haven't been since the 31st, so I wasn't aware that it happened before now. Any pin picked up up to here will still have the old sales tax; any pin picked up from now on will reflect the new tax rate. I am updating all of the prices on here to reflect this. (I will note the old price with tax as well until all pins picked up in 2016 have been accounted for.)

    Lists updated to here.

    Time for some drawings!

    Inside Out Calendar
    1. disneykins
    2. TammyH
    3. Pengy
    4. GrumpyDad



    Congrats, TammyH and Pengy!

    Scooter
    1.
    GrumpyDad
    2. hopemax
    3. disneykins
    4. unibear



    Congrats, hopemax!


    The Reluctant Dragon
    1. hopemax
    2. GrumpyDad
    3. disneykins
    4. Poohlady5
    5. GreyWyvern



    Congrats, hopemax!

    (Wow, I think this is the first time with my random drawing that the same person won both PTDs!)
    (Image wildly out of date; stay tuned!)

    Many thanks to SiuJerkJai for the amazing signature images! <3

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    Please put me on the list for these pins

    Jaq and Gus
    Wendy, John & Michael Walking Nana
    Jim Dear Walking Lady

    Thank you!

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    If I can be on the bolt and penny and op go and roger random list please.


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  24. #24
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    Please add me also for the PQRS alphabet set....Thank you!

  25. #25
    Your Friend Who Likes To Play timeerkat's Avatar
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    Lists updated
    (Image wildly out of date; stay tuned!)

    Many thanks to SiuJerkJai for the amazing signature images! <3

    my wants | my trades

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