Trading: Safe Trading / Banned Traders

Discussion in 'Pin Trading' started by PinPics_Ambassador, Apr 6, 2018.

  1. PinPics_Ambassador

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    We want everyone's Trades to be successful.
    Until our Reference Center is back up, I will Post here

    BANNED Traders..

    YaoHakpins8752
    Karen.o.03
    kdpins2000
    kk_1997
    pippinz

    michelelennan

    Added 4/16

    steph91
    kellyt92
     
    Last edited: Apr 18, 2018 at 3:51 PM
  2. Booger1964

    Booger1964 Active Member

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    It's a shame that you can't put their names in case they open another account - or can you?
     
  3. PinPics_Ambassador

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    they never gave a real name ... I have asked that this be corrected
     
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  4. TheMickeyMouseRules

    TheMickeyMouseRules Cat Expert Mouse Authority and Paperfolder

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    Thank you for the information. Very appreciated.
     
  5. Mixedwolf

    Mixedwolf Member

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    Just curious on how this helps? If they are banned we can't see their pins anyway. And they aren't banned until they don't follow through. Without a name and address it doesn't help.
     
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  6. PinPics_Ambassador

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    It does help if you are in a pending trade with them.
    Once they are banned then they can not try to scam anyone but
    trades may have been agreed upon before they were caught..
    knowledge is power

    michelelennan added to the list
     
  7. Mixedwolf

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    I have a trade that went bad and you guys have temporarily banned this person. It has been over a week that they have a temp ban and people still could be finalizing their trade and this name is not listed. I started the trade back in March and they have my pins for over a month and no response from them. So again by the time they are actually banned what good is this list?
     
  8. Tokaji

    Tokaji Pins and Needles

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    Real name can be faked as well as anything else, so that's not going to help much, either. If anything, email or IP would be a better thing, but even both of those can be changed/circumvented.
     
  9. Mixedwolf

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    An address would help. They do get that when a complaint is filed
     
  10. katelouise

    katelouise lunapins on Instagram!

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    Please don't trade with dianelange_trading917.
    They are sending out a lot of lopsided trade requests (in my favour) regarding Heroine pins, I asked for photos and references and they only sent me one photo which was cropped from an instagram users photo.

    Be careful with "too good to be true" offers especially when everyone is clamoring for Heroines atm.
     
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  11. AvatarAng1

    AvatarAng1 DPF Court Jester

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    I feel like there could be legal complications with giving out people's addresses/ IPs. Although, I'm no expert.
     
  12. Mixedwolf

    Mixedwolf Member

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    Isn't there something illegal by not fulfilling your end of a trade? I heard some say it is mail fraud
     
  13. AvatarAng1

    AvatarAng1 DPF Court Jester

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    True, but that's very hard to convict someone for. A website like pin pics releasing someone's address is a major violation of several laws.
     
  14. Mixedwolf

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    Than I would hope they will get a trade feedback system like there is here. This way it goes up fast and it helps if you have successfull trades. And keeps a running tab. Not like before when all it stated was you traded. No negative feedback was possible. And since my trade was March 2nd and I never received anything from the trader here is his PinPics name Nicholas.hart200pinner
     
  15. pinnochiolover

    pinnochiolover DPF Member

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    What worries me about this, is that people may say they have had a horrible experience with such and such trader, but how do I know the true extent of it? Did you wait long enough for the trade to arrive? Did you keep in contact with the sender about the situation, as of course there could be legitimate reasons i.e. ill health, lost in post etc etc ...... Was the sender given the opportunity to resolve? Did you report the situation to Pinpics (if trade arranged there)?

    At least if Pinpics are informing the community of the offenders Pinpics name, we can be sure that the allegation is legitimate. I surely don't mean to offend anyone, but from my perspective, I live in another country and don't personally know every trader, and so have no way to gauge how you may have handled the situation. At the end of the day, this sort of thing can affect someone's reputation, so it needs to be handled correctly.
     
  16. PinPics_Ambassador

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    We realize how controversial this is but until we have our
    Reference Center back up we want to keep the community
    informed ... so ...
    Please, if you were working on a trade do NOT Trade with
    steph91 and kellyt92


    and if and when these trades are made right then I will notify you of that as well
    these are still Banned
    YaoHakpins8752
    Karen.o.03
    kdpins2000
    kk_1997
    pippinz
    michelelennan

    pinocchiolover, I feel the same way ... things in real life come up.
    I would never post anyone that that has happened to. Unfortunately
    the names here are stealing pins. They stop communicating the minute
    that they get tracking numbers.

    **If this happens write to me at Ambassador@pinpics.com immediately
    so that we can stop anyone else from losing pins as well.
    Thank you
     
    Last edited: Apr 18, 2018 at 3:52 PM
  17. pinnochiolover

    pinnochiolover DPF Member

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    Dear Pinpics my comment was not directed at you, I am sorry if the second paragraph of my post did not adequately express that. My concern was directed as those individuals on this thread who are posting traders Pinpics IDs in relation to personal complaints.
    The type of fraud you are referring to, is of course very upsetting, thank you for helping those in the community affected by this. .....Kind Regards!
     
    Last edited: Apr 17, 2018 at 2:51 PM
  18. PinPics_Ambassador

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    oh no PinocchioLover, I did not misunderstand and knew it was not us
    We have had Complaints filed a week after the trade was agreed to. I
    would not want their names posted.
    The Old Old Reference Center used to let you comment
    the Old Reference Center only let you put a date in.. I am hoping
    that the New One will allow us to put more info in ...

    I just sent a suggestion in to the Owner and the Programmer,
    it will clear up any problem we have with trades.
    Will be happy to have it back up and running, until then you can
    write to me and I will check on potential trade partners for you.
    Be Safe not sorry
     
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  19. PeterPanLovva

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    I wish i would have read this before I traded with her! She did give me a tracking number but it says: no information available. Hopefully she follows through, otherwise I just lost out on a pin :(
     

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