Are the veteran pin traders leaving the hobby?
David, you are completely right... In 05 the big thing was the ab five, Tink and I forget the other... (stitch maybe) So I get some of those pins and by the next time I get out there I am stuck with all these pins as those ones aren't the "hot" ones anymore...
Aceastrococopuff said:I looked and I have no fab five pins you want... What are the odds?
I've been in it since 2005 and have always known there were resellers. I think one of the biggest issues for me now is the availability of LE pins to those not residing in Southern California. With disneystore.com all US people kind of had an equal chance of buying the "hot" new pins when they were released at 3AM EST every week.
I agree with what all the 14+ year veterans say and then some-
I just miss the love for ALL pins not just the current 'it' themes- its sad how many amazingly awesome pins are out there and very few people give them a 2nd glance cause they arnt 'frozen' 'tangled' etc.
I get the need to narrow the focus but I think so many newer traders ONLY focus on the $$$ hard to get ones instead of working on a much more reasonable theme that then can help you get the more amazing stuff because sometimes those who HAVE the grails etc want to be able to trade for something THEY need.. Take for instance the cross u frozen pin- I have one of them for trade and yet EVERYONE who posts 'i need this' has very little to nothing of value I could trade for it- Nothing on my wants list (there is a few Id easily go 1-1 for) or nothing of approx value (I value it at 60-75 a pin not 200+) that I then could turn to get something I do need...
I recently have been tasked with selling a good friends pin collection (well part of it..) and she has some amazing older pins (some *I'd* never seen) some that 5-6 years ago people would have gone crazy for.. Now days Ill be lucky to get more 5-10 bucks a pin for most of it- one of the cooler to me pieces is an LE 20 AP from an old frame set- I'll be lucky to get 10 bucks for it since its goofy and no one collects goofy...
I miss the days of dizpins where people traded to help each other out- Now days my online trading has dropped to almost zero as its all about value and $$-
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+1000000000Take for example the most recent DSS pin Rapunzel/Pascal January calendar. It sells on eBay for $45. Which is probably about right IMO. Yet I see people on Facebook with these unreal expectations of like DA Ariels, HTF Marquees, Frozen surprise pin, etc as what they are willing to trade it for. And yet I may have a HTF pin from 2 or 3 years ago that is worth $40-$50 but that person won't trade me. They would rather sell it and two more for $45 each and add up to some $150 pin they've been eyeing. But that $150 pin is only $150 because people like them keep paying that much. It's like pinflation is happening because of people who would rather deal with eBay than another person.
Don't ever forget, these are just little pieces of metal (yes they are cool) but it is supposed to be the friendships you make here that matter more. At least in my not so humble opinion.
I've been turned off more by the "new" style of trading more than anything. It seems that if the pin is Rapunzel, Frozen or any other popular outlet no matter what the origin or Le size its made of King Midus's gold. .... It also seems that you dont have princess pins or any other high end pins people dont want to trade with you.
I wonder who will de-throne Frozen?
I do the best I can to find the pins that will fit in my collection the best and I will continue to do that. While everyone else is looking for the GSF Frozen pins, I'll be after some OE pins that I don't have and will appreciate them because they are part of a collection that I will not get rid of once the new "hot" pins come out.
+ I,000 .... I agree with everything you said. Well put!They hobby has changed, from trading/collecting to buying/selling. While we haven't been around as long as others (about 6 years), we've also seen this hobby go downhill. From DS.com stopping their pin releases, DLR tables being taken away, to the hundreds of newbies that all want everything for nothing. What ruined it for us are the new breed of people that rely solely on aftermarket prices. There was once a time where you could go to DSF at any time of the day and purchase pins days, sometimes weeks after their release date. Trade negotiations were based off of wants/trade ratios, LE size, and how badly a person wanted the pin. Now you can't even bring up a trade conversation without having ebay prices determining everything. One of the last times we went to DSF for a release every person around us was talking about what the pin was currently selling for and what they were going to list their pin for. Not to mention it's almost a health hazard to try to get current pins with the week long camp outs, and physical fights that seem to happen at every release. There are far more resellers now then traders/collectors. You also have to be in the "right click" in order to find someone to help you out for a reasonable return rate. It's rare to find someone willing to help you out for as close to cost as they can get anymore. You never had to camp out for pin releases, the closest to "camping out" was waiting until midnight on Sunday nights to see what new pins were released on DS.com. Overall the hobby has just become more stressful like a job then fun as a hobby should be.
While we haven't quit the hobby, we've taken a huge step back. We rarely send out trade requests anymore because the newbies all expect gold, diamonds, and rubies for their pin that was released yesterday, and then tell us that we're "sharks" and "not fair" because we don't accept their offer. We've weeded out our collection and kept only those that we really like, but aren't ready to start parting with our collection yet. We'll continue going after our shrunken down wants list, but we're no longer putting the effort into it like we used to do. It just isn't worth it anymore.
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