Did you trade with me on Sunday June 11, 2012?

At the Hinged Books release his friends from Vegas tried to let a big group of their friends cut in line. One of them blabbing about being a cop or homeland security or something random like that. They are shady characters too. A friend of mine confronted them and they told her to mind her own business. WTF? Also, I'll add I witnessed them swarm a CM at Westward Ho that brought out a board with 4 or 5 new hidden mickey's and these people jumped in front of everyone, took all the 2012 HM's and gave them scrappers in return. They are part of the reason they stopped "come out and trade." Now they moved it back to the Big Thunder Jamboree thing to get it away from the traders like them.

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Look I don't know what your problem is but clearly the information that you are spewing is false. The only part of your post the you got correct was that we were at the Hinged Book release and that we are from Las Vegas. The rest is ridiculous. We did have a run in with you and your gang of misfits that evening and that was over you or your friends taking unauthorized photographs of people in line. We specifically ask that our photos not be taken. Justin is a pin trader that we know. He is not a friend nor is he an enemy, actually I strike that I do consider him a pin trading friend. He's always been nice and kind to us. We are not shady traders or big eBay sellers nor are we out to make a buck. I also find it humorous that you believe that our familys ill-doings single handedly change policies at DLR. Thats comical and doesn't even warrant a response. We have a very valid and innocent reason for pin trading that doesn't have anything to do with money. My son is autistic and has a few other disabilities and pin trading has done more for him than years and years of therapy. I don't know what your motives are to call people out the way you have. Obviously if Justin or my family was really doing the things you say that security or DSF employees would have put a stop to it right then and there. All I can say is for every person like you there are 10 kind nice pin traders that we have encountered. Thank you to all the traders out there who have been so kind to my son and my family. And to people like you markheardjr YOU CAN SUCK IT

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At the Hinged Books release his friends from Vegas tried to let a big group of their friends cut in line. One of them blabbing about being a cop or homeland security or something random like that. They are shady characters too. A friend of mine confronted them and they told her to mind her own business. WTF? Also, I'll add I witnessed them swarm a CM at Westward Ho that brought out a board with 4 or 5 new hidden mickey's and these people jumped in front of everyone, took all the 2012 HM's and gave them scrappers in return. They are part of the reason they stopped "come out and trade." Now they moved it back to the Big Thunder Jamboree thing to get it away from the traders like them.

I'm not sure if you know who you are trying to defend. These people take advantage of every thing they can. They cheat the system and disregard Disney staff if there's a buck to be made.

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Look I don't know what your problem is but clearly the information that you are spewing is false. The only part of your post the you got correct was that we were at the Hinged Book release and that we are from Las Vegas. The rest is ridiculous. We did have a run in with you and your gang of misfits that evening and that was over you or your friends taking unauthorized photographs of people in line. We specifically ask that our photos not be taken. Justin is a pin trader that we know. He is not a friend nor is he an enemy, actually I strike that I do consider him a pin trading friend. He's always been nice and kind to us. We are not shady traders or big eBay sellers nor are we out to make a buck. I also find it humorous that you believe that our familys ill-doings single handedly change policies at DLR. Thats comical and doesn't even warrant a response. We have a very valid and innocent reason for pin trading that doesn't have anything to do with money. My son is autistic and has a few other disabilities and pin trading has done more for him than years and years of therapy. I don't know what your motives are to call people out the way you have. Obviously if Justin or my family was really doing the things you say that security or DSF employees would have put a stop to it right then and there. All I can say is for every person like you there are 10 kind nice pin traders that we have encountered. Thank you to all the traders out there who have been so kind to my son and my family. And to people like you markheardjr YOU CAN SUCK IT

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Don't throw me in with Applecore. We have traded once, but are clearly not chum's! I don't agree with probably 95% of what he says/does. I would not post pics of people online I don't know, especially children.

Don't expect DSF or Disney security to do anything. Justin knows that too so he takes advantage of every situation he can. Those people aren't bodybuilders or juiced up or off duty cops. They are mostly just kind faces that try to difuse situtations when they arise. Justin is on their radar for a reason, I am not. I would like to keep it that way.

"For every trader like you (me) there are 10 kind traders"?? You mean for every honest speaking person like me there are 10 people too shy or reserved to speak their mind and tell you what you're doing is wrong? I speak my mind and I let people know when what they are doing is not right. Cutting, bullying, and taking advantage of nice people is wrong. For every 1 of you there are 10 nice traders that don't cheat the system. I will trade with those 10 thank you.

I've been in lines too many times and saw people just cut in or try to let their friends join them. I'm SICK of it. I'm tired of being the honest guy that doesn't cut or cheat and gets screwed out of pins I want for myself, not to trade up or sell for profit. You were confronted by one of the nicest ladies I know to tell you it wasn't fair to let people cut in with you and you bullied her back. That is shameful behavior. But if you hail from sin city then perhaps shame means nothing to you? I will speak my mind out loud whenever I dang well please and if you're the one circumventing ettiguette then you will be the focus of my rant. Hopefully enought public scorn and embarrasment will set these cheats straight, but from my own experience with people lacking principles I doubt it will change their behavior. I hope it educates more traders on what to look for and who to look out for though and they will join me in voicing their discontent for this behavior.

If you are who I think you are then you are the reason they stopped Come out and trade at WH. The poor CM you attacked told me so. You guys sat there and pounced everytime a new book or board was brought out and noone else got a chance to get anything. You traded 4, 5, or 6 pins at a time because there were 2 or 3 of you there. Then replaced with scrappers. Don't deny it, we all saw.

Don't get me wrong, you guys aren't the first and won't be the last shady pin characters. One of my first shark experiences was a guy with a walkie talkie at Westward Ho that sent his kids out to find new HM's to trade for OE's and LE's to tourists. The kid was like 12 but really skinny and small and he hit up every kid lanyard from Main St. to Toon Town. He would radio back what he found to ask dad if it was better or not. Is it really worth all that? Luckily I haven't seen them in a long time, maybe they moved on to another con?

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Well you and Applecore and "the nice lady" who doesn't know how to obey the law can all get together and talk about all the wrongs in the pin trading world or post on here for all I care. Hopefully most valuable people will remember that opinions are like backsides , everyone has one and some just don't smell very good. See ya at the Brave release 

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Well you and Applecore and "the nice lady" who doesn't know how to obey the law can all get together and talk about all the wrongs in the pin trading world or post on here for all I care. Hopefully most valuable people will remember that opinions are like backsides , everyone has one and some just don't smell very good. See ya at the Brave release 

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Once again, I will kindly ask you not to put me, or my firends, in with Applecore. We don't know him personally nor would we count him as a friend nor do we condone him taking photo's of strangers to put online for bashing purposes.

I have seen some people take standard photos of the lines so out-of-towners get a feel for what it is like. But to take specific shots of a person or their kids is not right. I don't agree with that at all.