DisneyStore Limited Edition 17" Dolls Discussion
this. /thumbs up
So I've sat back and listened for a while to the back-and-forth discussion about scalpers, which is pleasantly civil so far and full of fascinating debate about whether or not to let new people in on all the "inside information." Now that my anger at UPS has finally blown over (yay!) I feel I have two cents to add.
I would just like to point out to everyone (new and old collectors alike) that scalpers are not necessarily new people; it's wishful thinking to assume all scalpers must be new because there's no way they wouldn't have gotten caught if they'd been scalping for a year or more. I didn't have a great example of this ideology until last week. A "collector" who shall remain nameless has been very vocal on a particular FB group. Well, the day the newest wave of Frozen dolls came out he was furious that his order for an LE Anna was canceled and made the mistake of venting about it on the group. I guess he got it figured out because last night I saw his advertisement for that same doll for $260...on that same FB page. I know for a fact this person has been actively "collecting" for at least as long as I have (one year next month), and probably longer. Then there is another group full of veteran collectors called Disney Flea Market, which has all but endorsed scalping for as long as I'd been a member. Another incident relating to the newest wave of Frozen dolls happened the day the dolls were released in-store and before the online release on that page when a scalper tried to sell the whole set for $800. When a group of people immediately commented about how completely inappropriate it was to want that much for the dolls before they finished selling at retail, the admins deleted all of their comments. Then they came back with a pinned post saying they would ban anyone who created "unnecessary drama" before the actual release, and then commented back and forth literally for hours about how ridiculous it was for anybody to complain about the scalper's prices in the first place. I know plenty of well-respected, high up collectors on that page who scalp frequently and are never maligned by anyone for it because of how long they have been "collecting." Needless to say, I am no longer a visitor to their page.
So that said, I don't think scalping should have much of anything to do with collecting experience; they are not one and the same, and a person on this page should not automatically be trusted just by their join date or the size of their collection. It's true that it's a huge factor in determining who might be a scalper, but it's not the only factor. I have four LE dolls, including two that are on their way to me, and I'm sure that most people here have more than that if not entire sets of Disney LE dolls. But I am no scalper and buy only the dolls I want for my collection to begin with, since I don't want all the characters or want to hold off in the hopes of buying earlier ones.
But on the flip side, I think newer collectors, including myself, HAVE to understand that it's perfectly logical for veteran collectors to be suspicious of us at first. I would say why, but most of them have already said it so perfectly I don't see the need. I also agree that discussion, particularly about the non-financial details of the dolls such as whether or not the Cinderella dolls really look like Lily James (the jury's still out on that one, lol), what costumes they will pick for upcoming dolls, whether there will be more Harrods sets, etc. is a great indicator of who's really interested in the dolls for their intended purpose. And like veterans have already said, if you've been on the forum for a while AND contributed to the thread during non-release seasons that's really the best way for anyone to see if someone's a scalper or not. I too am suspicious of guests who lurk around the forum and read posts since at least one is probably on a reconnaissance mission for eBay at any one time, but at the end of the day I don't think it's right to be overly paranoid and hide information to the point where most of us are in the dark. It's great to talk to a group of people who share this love of Disney and the LE dolls, and I absolutely love reading discussions here so long as they are polite, which they are 95% of the time. I'd hate to see the strong community feeling of this thread be ruined because of scalper paranoia.
I am sorry if this came out as babble, since it is rather long-winded now that I've read it over to myself! But really, on a personal level I have felt very welcome here on the forum and look forward to future discussions with all of you, whether you joined this morning or have been collecting since the beginning.
So I've sat back and listened for a while to the back-and-forth discussion about scalpers, which is pleasantly civil so far and full of fascinating debate about whether or not to let new people in on all the "inside information." Now that my anger at UPS has finally blown over (yay!) I feel I have two cents to add.
I would just like to point out to everyone (new and old collectors alike) that scalpers are not necessarily new people; it's wishful thinking to assume all scalpers must be new because there's no way they wouldn't have gotten caught if they'd been scalping for a year or more. I didn't have a great example of this ideology until last week. A "collector" who shall remain nameless has been very vocal on a particular FB group. Well, the day the newest wave of Frozen dolls came out he was furious that his order for an LE Anna was canceled and made the mistake of venting about it on the group. I guess he got it figured out because last night I saw his advertisement for that same doll for $260...on that same FB page. I know for a fact this person has been actively "collecting" for at least as long as I have (one year next month), and probably longer. Then there is another group full of veteran collectors called Disney Flea Market, which has all but endorsed scalping for as long as I'd been a member. Another incident relating to the newest wave of Frozen dolls happened the day the dolls were released in-store and before the online release on that page when a scalper tried to sell the whole set for $800. When a group of people immediately commented about how completely inappropriate it was to want that much for the dolls before they finished selling at retail, the admins deleted all of their comments. Then they came back with a pinned post saying they would ban anyone who created "unnecessary drama" before the actual release, and then commented back and forth literally for hours about how ridiculous it was for anybody to complain about the scalper's prices in the first place. I know plenty of well-respected, high up collectors on that page who scalp frequently and are never maligned by anyone for it because of how long they have been "collecting." Needless to say, I am no longer a visitor to their page.
So that said, I don't think scalping should have much of anything to do with collecting experience; they are not one and the same, and a person on this page should not automatically be trusted just by their join date or the size of their collection. It's true that it's a huge factor in determining who might be a scalper, but it's not the only factor. I have four LE dolls, including two that are on their way to me, and I'm sure that most people here have more than that if not entire sets of Disney LE dolls. But I am no scalper and buy only the dolls I want for my collection to begin with, since I don't want all the characters or want to hold off in the hopes of buying earlier ones.
But on the flip side, I think newer collectors, including myself, HAVE to understand that it's perfectly logical for veteran collectors to be suspicious of us at first. I would say why, but most of them have already said it so perfectly I don't see the need. I also agree that discussion, particularly about the non-financial details of the dolls such as whether or not the Cinderella dolls really look like Lily James (the jury's still out on that one, lol), what costumes they will pick for upcoming dolls, whether there will be more Harrods sets, etc. is a great indicator of who's really interested in the dolls for their intended purpose. And like veterans have already said, if you've been on the forum for a while AND contributed to the thread during non-release seasons that's really the best way for anyone to see if someone's a scalper or not. I too am suspicious of guests who lurk around the forum and read posts since at least one is probably on a reconnaissance mission for eBay at any one time, but at the end of the day I don't think it's right to be overly paranoid and hide information to the point where most of us are in the dark. It's great to talk to a group of people who share this love of Disney and the LE dolls, and I absolutely love reading discussions here so long as they are polite, which they are 95% of the time. I'd hate to see the strong community feeling of this thread be ruined because of scalper paranoia.
I am sorry if this came out as babble, since it is rather long-winded now that I've read it over to myself! But really, on a personal level I have felt very welcome here on the forum and look forward to future discussions with all of you, whether you joined this morning or have been collecting since the beginning.
I hated it in the photo and then loved it in person. The ribbon on top is ribbon, rather than a thick, hideous jutting-up plastic handle like I had thought from the picture. The bow on the back is adorable. The box material is better quality than the photo looked. The cut-outs on the sides are really unique and pretty, they remind me both of her carriage and also of C for Cinderella.
Her doll itself also looks more gorgeous in person than I had expected. I know Disney is getting a bit of a reputation for taking unflattering pictures, but I've never been as deceived before as I was with her. I can't stop staring at her now, she has pride-of-place on the table right by my computer. I was almost certain that I was going to take a pass on her, I didn't buy online and got too tired being awake all night to line up for what I thought was a doll I wasn't going to buy, and if it wasn't for my fiance (lining up, seeing her in person and making the decision on my behalf), I would have missed out.
Okay, I am OBSESSED with the box. I can't believe I almost didn't get this doll now that I'm so connected with it. I opened her tonight, the first time I've done that to a LE. I boil permed her hair to make it look like the movie and plan to do some more work on her. Another first with a LE for me. Also, and this is the part that makes me crazy, I decorated her box with over 100 rhinestones.
I loved the movie so much that it's bumped Cinderella up to my favorite LE doll. Fingers crossed we get a fairy godmother with the video release! Doubtful but that's what makes it a dream / wish.
Okay, I am OBSESSED with the box. I can't believe I almost didn't get this doll now that I'm so connected with it. I opened her tonight, the first time I've done that to a LE. I boil permed her hair to make it look like the movie and plan to do some more work on her. Another first with a LE for me. Also, and this is the part that makes me crazy, I decorated her box with over 100 rhinestones.
I loved the movie so much that it's bumped Cinderella up to my favorite LE doll. Fingers crossed we get a fairy godmother with the video release! Doubtful but that's what makes it a dream / wish.
I've wondered how much of the work on these dolls, if any, is done by hand. It does seem like some of it would have to be. Is there info somewhere on how they are made, as in any work that's done by hand? I would love to know more about it.
Okay, I am OBSESSED with the box. I can't believe I almost didn't get this doll now that I'm so connected with it. I opened her tonight, the first time I've done that to a LE. I boil permed her hair to make it look like the movie and plan to do some more work on her. Another first with a LE for me. Also, and this is the part that makes me crazy, I decorated her box with over 100 rhinestones.
I loved the movie so much that it's bumped Cinderella up to my favorite LE doll. Fingers crossed we get a fairy godmother with the video release! Doubtful but that's what makes it a dream / wish.
I cannot wait to see what she looks like when she is finished! I was so on the fence about getting her myself, and the box was kind of jarring at first, but I ended up loving the film so much that it made me hate myself for not saving up enough money in time to get her. She looks gorgeous from all of the photos ive seen, and it really makes me wonder what Belle will look like when Beauty and the Beast comes out (assuming they make a doll of Emma Watson, but after Cinderella I really don't see why not)!
I am so excited for the BATB live action dolls now. I'm sure they'll make them. I can't wait! I just hope they turn out as beautiful as Cinderella did.
There's a million of those idiots on fb groupsMy favorite is the "needing to sell for emergency" reason then the next week asking for specific dolls.
i second this. i also have an issue with her top ribbon that makes it look like a lunch box but i just taped the access ribbon to the side to make it flat. haha!
Okay, I am OBSESSED with the box. I can't believe I almost didn't get this doll now that I'm so connected with it. I opened her tonight, the first time I've done that to a LE. I boil permed her hair to make it look like the movie and plan to do some more work on her. Another first with a LE for me. Also, and this is the part that makes me crazy, I decorated her box with over 100 rhinestones.
I loved the movie so much that it's bumped Cinderella up to my favorite LE doll. Fingers crossed we get a fairy godmother with the video release! Doubtful but that's what makes it a dream / wish.
haha, so glad to hear you are loving her. please post photos, would love to see what you've done with the doll and box.
i opened the plastic case on mine and touched up her hair and tilted her hand and face to how i wanted them to look but it's strange, i never got a feeling of wanting to take her out. geezuz, if i had another one, i would. but she is just so pretty in the box. ; u;
i... i actually had mixed feelings about the movie. urgh, i feel like i should go watch it again to soak it in. i remember posting that "oh no, the trailers definitely didn't show too much and it's all about seeing the scenes together" and i probably should retract that statement, cause i didn't feel as excited watching the scenes i already watched.
i still very much love the movie. it was gorgeous and so is the doll. no regrets whatsoever about getting her. it was weird cause i think even when i first saw her and was like "... did they make a mistake and put the 12" doll photo?", i was like "oh well, i need her in my life" haha. i am really happy with her. c:
i would want the prince. o: that would be nice. him in his royal getup would compliment her ball gown well. omg what if he was posed like he was chasing after her.
they probably won't go for that, let alone him as a limited edition doll but it would be cute.
here are photos of my doll!
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