Hidden Mickey Cast Pins with Card?

I am searching through ebay and found a great deal from a very reputable seller (only one negative feedback in the past 12 months and it was silly), for a set of HM pins. They are all on Disney Parks cards, like you would find for a standard pin at a park shop. Is that strange or is it common for them to be issued that way to cast members?

HM pins are only found on cast lanyards (or in the case of complete pins, in mystery bags at the registers in shops), and as such, do not have cards. Sounds like the person just put the HM pins on cards from other rack pins.

I'd be suspicious if somewhere in the listing title or description it says they are on original cards, though.

Good point. All they said was that they are 100% real and not proofs, so they are not perfect as they are traders. 99.9% positive feedback and getting all 2015 HM wave a costume pins for $13 sounds good to me!

I know that some people do that who are perfectly legit, so I can't chastise any particular seller without knowing more about them, but I admit that seeing pins on cards that shouldn't be (during advertising) tends to make me feel funny about them. A lot of people reuse old backer cards when shipping pins that would be loose otherwise, and that I have no problem with, but it just looks odd when they are advertised in that way, like they are trying harder to make the pins look more official or something.

It reminds me of seeing a WDI Sorcerer Hat pin on a black card, lol!

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Er, anyway, they are probably fine!

^ Some WDI sorcerer hat pins did sell on black backer cards. I have a few. They're likely extras pulled for events they used to do where they'd have hat for hat trading boards or samples from display cases, etc. which they later put on backer cards and sold.

Ah, didn't know that!

Was mostly thinking of the counterfeits we see a lot, like $5 Figments.

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Just figured I'd mention it. There's a ton of pin information that the general community doesn't have access to since PinPics stopped being an accurate resource a few years ago when they chased off all of their regular longtime contributors who had/have all that knowledge and information. It's sad for the hobby, but that's the way it is.

Jabberwocky said:

Just figured I'd mention it. There's a ton of pin information that the general community doesn't have access to since PinPics stopped being an accurate resource a few years ago when they chased off all of their regular longtime contributors who had/have all that knowledge and information. It's sad for the hobby, but that's the way it is.

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Is there any place you go to get the info, or is it just in person word of mouth? It's so hard for people that aren't local to a park, and so can't hear all the gossip. Since I can be more active now, for the first time in a year and a half, things have changed so much yet again. I follow a couple FB groups but they are selling ones, so there isn't a lot of just talk about pins. Everything is such a business transaction.

^ I think it's just being here and knowing/seeing everything that goes on. And you can only do that as a local and a "regular". Wherever that is - be it DSF/WDI/DLR/WDW/Paris etc. I wouldn't want to start pin collecting - and certainly not try to be a completist - if I wasn't so local to so many releases. It was different back in the day when DA and DS leveled things so everyone had a chance to participate, but now, with it so heavily tipped in the favor of you have to live in either SoCal or Orlando to have a chance to get everything you want - and I'll be honest, SoCal has a far bigger advantage than Orlando - I am glad I'm not starting collecting now.

I don't follow anything on Facebook or Instagram - so I'm probably missing out on info there, but hopefully I hear it secondhand from someone if it's relevant to what I collect.

Online hasn't had a good comprehensive pin resource or community discussion since DizPins went away and PinPics was sold and the new team pushed out many folks who had been major contributors to the original site. But then, I always separately tracked and researched everything relevant to my collection from the day I started collecting pins. So PinPics over the past few years being so full of misinformation and duplicate listings and missing so much that should be listed from released pins to scrapper warnings just makes me sad. But my own archive of pin information - between what I know and what I chronicled is all I need for my collection. But I am sorry that so much of what I and others have seen and experienced will be missed by the larger community since there's no one place to put it all anymore with the pin community so fractured and drifting more and more to simply being unsecured transactions on social media. Until eventually, that too will die out.

(Yeah, yeah, I know, I'm all doom and gloom. But really, I just call things as I see them. I still love my pins. I still love my friends I've made from pins. I still love the silly wonderful experiences and moments I have with pins - from interactions with cast members just trading off lanyards for fun to hanging out in lines for releases to being known for what I collect. There is still great joy for me in pins. But there's also sadness for what was and will not be again.)

No, I'm with you with the doom & gloom. I was hoping you had some secret cabal of old timer pin people who went underground and all the info was still shared. There is so much fracturing, and like I said everything is so "business transaction" oriented, and all the Fantasy stuff currently, that when this particular wave of pin people "burns out/ages out/moves on" as all the other previous waves have done, Disney's lowered quality standards, etc. I'm not sure what will be left.

hopemax said:

No, I'm with you with the doom & gloom. I was hoping you had some secret cabal of old timer pin people who went underground and all the info was still shared. There is so much fracturing, and like I said everything is so "business transaction" oriented, and all the Fantasy stuff currently, that when this particular wave of pin people "burns out/ages out/moves on" as all the other previous waves have done, Disney's lowered quality standards, etc. I'm not sure what will be left.

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You, me and a handful of other people who still look at their pins in their collection and go "ooohhh, pretty - I'm so happy I have that and I remember the great story of how I got it..."

The lack of community will ultimately impact the ability to keep up. But it will never impact an innate love for the shiny pretty things. That's the difference between a committed collector and someone just passing through for a few weeks/months/years - the pin love remains.

Jabberwocky said:

You, me and a handful of other people who still look at their pins in their collection and go "ooohhh, pretty - I'm so happy I have that and I remember the great story of how I got it..."

The lack of community will ultimately impact the ability to keep up. But it will never impact an innate love for the shiny pretty things. That's the difference between a committed collector and someone just passing through for a few weeks/months/years - the pin love remains.

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This is some of my primary concern. I got so frustrated between 2006-2010ish, and I took my collecting "off-line" so that I missed knowing a lot of things. I was perfectly happy with all my pins that I was still adding. But there is pain in knowing I could have had all the old Beloved Tales pin, had only I known they existed. They weren't hard to get, and often released on NFFC sale days, AND I HAD A PIN FRIEND THERE ALL OF THOSE DAYS. But I didn't know, so she didn't know to buy for me, so now I bang my head, and hope that I can avoid history repeating itself. So between that, and being fearful of not knowing about a particular pin's shady side and overspending on something that is compromised...

That said, I am working on an alternative information source...but I'm not technically savvy enough to do it quickly. It will probably take me so long, that no one will care but me. But after everything that has happened, I'll at least I'll have a resource to get my own ducks in a row that isn't dependent on others.

At least the new Shop Disney World App, lets you know all the open edition pins that are out (since that's a big black hole now with the way Disney does the flyers, and so many traders can't be bothered with OE's so the DB's don't get updated with them)

hopemax said:

That said, I am working on an alternative information source...but I'm not technically savvy enough to do it quickly. It will probably take me so long, that no one will care but me. But after everything that has happened, I'll at least I'll have a resource to get my own ducks in a row that isn't dependent on others.

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I've always supported the idea of everyone keeping track of whatever information they can. As I said, I've done the same for my own collecting theme.

At least the new Shop Disney World App, lets you know all the open edition pins that are out (since that's a big black hole now with the way Disney does the flyers, and so many traders can't be bothered with OE's so the DB's don't get updated with them)

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My phone is so old it can't support any current apps, but when I get a new one I'm really looking forward to playing around with the Shop app just to see what's there and compare to what I see at DL!

I think pintradingdb.com is doing a good job.