Lessons in Pin Trading 101: When Relying On Pinpics is STUPID
Prof Tiggernut's Lesson 2
This the second lesson from the Class 101 of Pin Trading aka Pin Trading for Dummies series. This may become a regularly scheduled class, depending on attendance.
--- LESSON 2: When Relying On Pinpics is STUPID
1)Pinpics is a contributor database. Regular folk, non-Disney authorized people put this site together and contribute to its information. ANYONE can contribute to the site (until you are blocked that is...).
While, the moderators attempt to verify information placed there, these moderators are actually not very good at knowing anything about pins that are pre-2000 and/or current non-usual releases (ie Cast Awards). This results in many instances of good information being deleted and other times where false or misleading stories are allowed to remain for months even years on some pins.
2) Sellers/Pin Sharks MISUSE Pinpics.
Too often, a seller has a pin and wants to create an image that the item is indeed rare or unique. So, they make up a story on Pinpics or have a friend put the story there. Then, that seller refers to the "fake" information in their auctions and quote Pinpics as their attributed source.
My favorite time this happens is with new Cast pins...that are truly not even Disney pins -but created by a seller, who sells as many as possible before the buying public learns that the pin is fake. They often put the misleading story on Pinpics and sell, sell, sell. Such a fake can be a deemed a "legitimate" pin for many months (and MANY sales) before the truth is known.
3) Uneducated Pin People Chime In Bad Info.
Unfortunately, the opposite also happens with good pins being labeled bad. This happens when newbies enter into the hobby, they are inundated by talk of "fakes" "scrappers" and the like. This results in silly comments like variations that are legitimate pins, or questions about why the “First Release†backstamp is missing. Or my favorite: wondering why the rubber Mickey backing is not present.
This is done by well-meaning folk who are trying to be an active member of the community – but unfortunately their silly comments remain a while on the site -making that particular pin suspect for the remainder of time.
I also see this sort of comment made when a new unknown pin arrives on the scene. Typically found with Cast pins, awards, and promos -that are not announced or previewed. Here, the database goes the other way...calling unusual pins FAKE because the unknowing, un-pin-educated just don't know the pin. This is all too common as well. This happens mostly with older pins.
Remember....
There was a time when Disney pins did not have the official Pin Trading Logo on the back; there was even a time when Disney didn't even copyright the pin at all (ex: 1980s pin where the card was copyrighted)
So, class...my point today is -Pinpics is good, but has been misused for Pin Histories.
Don't let someone else with other motives tell you what is Rare, Unusual, or Fake. Stick with what you like and you can never go wrong. If you keep in mind that Pinpics is a resource, with many instances of having misleading or incorrect information. It can be reliable on some things, not all.
Class Dismissed.
Prof Tiggnut
This the second lesson from the Class 101 of Pin Trading aka Pin Trading for Dummies series. This may become a regularly scheduled class, depending on attendance.
--- LESSON 2: When Relying On Pinpics is STUPID
1)Pinpics is a contributor database. Regular folk, non-Disney authorized people put this site together and contribute to its information. ANYONE can contribute to the site (until you are blocked that is...).
While, the moderators attempt to verify information placed there, these moderators are actually not very good at knowing anything about pins that are pre-2000 and/or current non-usual releases (ie Cast Awards). This results in many instances of good information being deleted and other times where false or misleading stories are allowed to remain for months even years on some pins.
2) Sellers/Pin Sharks MISUSE Pinpics.
Too often, a seller has a pin and wants to create an image that the item is indeed rare or unique. So, they make up a story on Pinpics or have a friend put the story there. Then, that seller refers to the "fake" information in their auctions and quote Pinpics as their attributed source.
My favorite time this happens is with new Cast pins...that are truly not even Disney pins -but created by a seller, who sells as many as possible before the buying public learns that the pin is fake. They often put the misleading story on Pinpics and sell, sell, sell. Such a fake can be a deemed a "legitimate" pin for many months (and MANY sales) before the truth is known.
3) Uneducated Pin People Chime In Bad Info.
Unfortunately, the opposite also happens with good pins being labeled bad. This happens when newbies enter into the hobby, they are inundated by talk of "fakes" "scrappers" and the like. This results in silly comments like variations that are legitimate pins, or questions about why the “First Release†backstamp is missing. Or my favorite: wondering why the rubber Mickey backing is not present.
This is done by well-meaning folk who are trying to be an active member of the community – but unfortunately their silly comments remain a while on the site -making that particular pin suspect for the remainder of time.
I also see this sort of comment made when a new unknown pin arrives on the scene. Typically found with Cast pins, awards, and promos -that are not announced or previewed. Here, the database goes the other way...calling unusual pins FAKE because the unknowing, un-pin-educated just don't know the pin. This is all too common as well. This happens mostly with older pins.
Remember....
There was a time when Disney pins did not have the official Pin Trading Logo on the back; there was even a time when Disney didn't even copyright the pin at all (ex: 1980s pin where the card was copyrighted)
So, class...my point today is -Pinpics is good, but has been misused for Pin Histories.
Don't let someone else with other motives tell you what is Rare, Unusual, or Fake. Stick with what you like and you can never go wrong. If you keep in mind that Pinpics is a resource, with many instances of having misleading or incorrect information. It can be reliable on some things, not all.
Class Dismissed.
Prof Tiggnut
