AUTHENTICITY Real or fakes?
I have zero confidence in my ability to identify fakes. That is why I love trading on Pin & Pop. And this community!Confirming fakes from pictures is difficult, but in general the pins in you pictures would be ones I would avoid if I saw them on a pin board in the parks.
But going to say... do you love the pins? If you love them, I would focus on that and enjoy them.
If you want to improve your knowledge to avoid fakes in the future, read up on @hopemax's guides.
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Another one from @TonkaToy :
⚠️ Spotting Scrappers ⚠️️
In the hack a lot of comparison discussions got lost 🙁
I still have some examples of how to spot scrappers on my drive, so I'll post them here.
1st example is from the hats set. This is Maleficent.
A lot of scrappers have these dull scraped up surfaces. Metal colors can be off, waffle edging odd, etc. My notes on the photo shows common clues to ID a scrapper.
Scrapper:
- Paint dips (my photo is cut-off on the left side, but the arrow is pointing to dips or scratches in the enamel.)
- Rough, dull and scraped...
- TonkaToy
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- Forum: Pin Guides & FAQs
And here is a post from me that compares real and fakes HD Maleficent pins:
Sadly, found a scrapper/fake version of the 2020 Hidden Disney, Maleficent, Carnevale Masks this week. As the non-scrap version is one of my favorite pins ever, it struck a cord and I traded for the fake in order to have it to post this side by side comparison.
What I noted:
1) Fake had dips in the enamel.
2) Fake was shinier.
3) Fake feathers were cream colored (the real pin is yellow).
4) Fake colors were off. Purple had more red. Black looked deeper black (which might be due to shine).
5) Fake silver outline was thinner and cheaper looking.
6) Fake back post base was slightly...
- TheMickeyMouseRules
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- Forum: Pin Comparison
When I started out in this hobby it was a slow education to start being able to spot fakes, so this skill developes the longer one trades/collects.
I am so not the one to ask about that. I do have 2 of those pins and can send you pics of mine eventually. I think you would do better to ask @hopemax though.@Pidge I can't 100% spot some of the 'good fakes' but other things like grainy pitted metal are such a dead giveaway on a lot of common scrappers
I've been meaning to ask you because you collect sketch pins, on the old Animation Art mystery sketch set from 2012 were all the backs manufactured with a weird wavy cut off line or could you DM me a picture of the backs on one of yours? (I know you're still unpacking so no urgency, was just curious if those had been scrapped or if it was a consistent manufacturing issue.)
@hopemax Thank you for the tip, this was very informative and helpful! I had my guesses after looking them up, but i want help to make sure i wasn't over thinking it. Pic 1 (simba) has flat smallish nubs- not sharp at all. Do all real pins have sharp small nubs? I also thought that pic 6 (tsum tigger) might be my best shot at real, but again, I'm just starting out and dont know what I dont know. I am also on the fense with the big round tigger in pic 4. Pic 2 tigger popsicle seems all scraped up like one fake in your other post with the villian ears. Pics 9 and 11 dont match pin pics either with color. Is pin pics very accurate with the appropriate authentic pin picture?I also don't like confirming fakes via photo, but agree with @TheMickeyMouseRules these would be types of pins I would avoid because they have been faked.
Some tells that can help weed out bad pins sooner
1. Pin 1 - are the nubs short or longer like usual? They look short to me in the photo. Any pin with those short half-height nubs are fake.
2. Pin 10 - I assume any pins from an International park are fakes. Except if you see a clearly Japanese person putting a Tokyo Disney Resort game prize pin on a lanyard (because those are what they bring for "cheap traders." But this one specifically, the back looks rough, and not cleanly stamped.
3. Pins 7 & 8 - These are old Hidden Mickey pins at these point. CMs do not have access to authentic versions of these to refresh their lanyards. Lots of people start out trying to collect older Hidden Mickey sets because they start to notice how some pins go together and want to make a set. But CMs pretty much only get refreshed with the current or previous year's series. Sometimes they find boxes in a closet, but then people on FB notice and start talking about it. People have recently chatted about finding 2020 pins in the rotation, but it's rare you are going to see really old stuff.
4. Pin 3 - look inside the Mickey ear logo, and the copyright logo. See how the pebble texture of the rest of the pin is inside the box? This is usually (but not often, it can be specific to a pin) a sign of a fake. This is the back of this Pluto pin from Pinpics. Notice how the texture inside those areas is smooth? Also notice the presence of nubs.
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5. Pin 5 - Check photos on the 3 main database sites: PinPics, Pin & Pop, and MyPinCentral and look for color issues. Notice Tigger has a white nose on your pin, but if you check those sites you will see Tigger's nose is supposed to be pink.
Of these, the Tsum Tsum Tigger in Image 5, looks the best, but I'm not familiar enough with this set to know if the colors and details are right.
But I hope these clues help. A lot of it comes down to how a pin feels or sounds if you drop it. If you have some pins you bought directly from Disney, close your eyes and feel and play around with them. Then do the same with the pins you trade. Eventually, you can start to sense the differences.
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