Dealbreaker? really?

[hopemax]

But I have a Question - Each backer card is unique to each pin ( SKU Number ) How do you keep them straight?

Barbara

You can use Google and Pinpics to match the card to the pin. On the Google search page type the sku number followed by site:www.pinpics.com . The caveat is that Skus are entered differently. Some people type the whole thing including the tiny number on the left and right. Others just include the last 6 digits or so, since the beginning part of the skus are usually all 40000. So for example, using a pin I got in the mail today. Putting this in Google: 400909114820 site:www.pinpics.com

Gives me these results: https://www.google.com/#hl=en&sclie....,cf.osb&fp=a2e370afc0354df8&biw=1280&bih=685

Matching pin to card is obviously harder, but if you work a system so that all your alice cards are together, all snow white cards are together, all series are together then there would be less to sort through.

 

[SyriusLionwing]

I had someone pull out of a trade recently because of this. It sucks! I don't throw my cards away, they go in a box, but I got a good pin off a staff lanyard and I also purchased a bunch of pins from an older lady and gent and they didn't keep their backer cards. For me the only thing that matters is that the pin I want is available to me. The only exception to ths rule is special backer cards, art work, boxes or post cards, tho it's not honestly a deal breaker if I really want the pin.

Eecially since I take all of my pins off their cards to display them lol!

 

[Trade Winds Pins]

I have a question for all of you who insist on only doing trades where the backer cards are included, specifically the generic black ones (not the decorative one): When you get your pin in the trade, whether in person or via mail, do you actually go check the SKU numbers to make sure they match? And if they don't (let's say someone just wanted the trade and didn't care that they were lying to you and just had the pin on a random black backer card), do you call out the trader and make them send your pin back and send them theirs? I'm just wondering, I'm not being sarcastic or anything.

 

[TheOtherSteve]

All of the pins I have purchased over the years ae still in / on their original backers and / or baggies. For pins I trade for (or pins like the Mystery / GWP), I have a supply of several different sized zip lock type bags that I put the pins in to help protect them. I have bags from 1.5" x 1.5" (good for hidden mickey / GWP pins) all the way up to 5" x 7" (good for the PoDM pins on their backer cards) - I get the bags at a local collectibles show and they are very inexpensive...

 

[TheOtherSteve]

I have a question for all of you who insist on only doing trades where the backer cards are included, specifically the generic black ones (not the decorative one): When you get your pin in the trade, whether in person or via mail, do you actually go check the SKU numbers to make sure they match? And if they don't (let's say someone just wanted the trade and didn't care that they were lying to you and just had the pin on a random black backer card), do you call out the trader and make them send your pin back and send them theirs? I'm just wondering, I'm not being sarcastic or anything.

I don't, but I can see others way of thinking - a pin with the correct backer makes it less likely that it's a scrapper or counterfeit pin (scrappers never had backers to begin with and counterfeit backers are not really cost effective)

 

[TheOtherSteve]

I had someone pull out of a trade recently because of this. It sucks! I don't throw my cards away, they go in a box, but I got a good pin off a staff lanyard and I also purchased a bunch of pins from an older lady and gent and they didn't keep their backer cards. For me the only thing that matters is that the pin I want is available to me. The only exception to ths rule is special backer cards, art work, boxes or post cards, tho it's not honestly a deal breaker if I really want the pin.

Eecially since I take all of my pins off their cards to display them lol!

I've seen people put the backers in the back of the foam / mat of the display case / frame.

 

[Kylejcummins]

when i first started i didnt think about the cards either because i saw so many people not have the cards when i looked at their pin books. i quickly found out they kept the cards in the back of the book. i had 4 or 5 trades that i was really excited about not go thru because i didnt have the backs- i feel your pain! safe to say i keep all special backs now...

 

[starry_solo]

For all the ones which I personally bought - in the store or online, I keep the backer card (Disney Shopping/Store/Auctions/DSF). A lot of pins I traded for had the original backer card (Disney Shopping). When I take the pin off the card (even for the "regular" pins), I label the backer card with a post-it note to identify which pin was originally on the card [yes, I know it has a SKU and can probably be looked up that way, but this is easier]). Then, all the backer cards go into a large ziploc bag.

I do this for all my keepers!

 

[HeatherFeather]

For the black plastic backers from either disney shopping or auction pins, I just wrote what pin it was on the back of the backer with a pencil. I kept my backers almost from the beginning. Even for pins in my trader books, if I have the cards there are in the zipper pocket adjacent to the page so if I trade I can give the backer card as well.

To make matters worse, I actually saved the foam envelope and the clear ziploc bags that the disneyshopping pins came in as well. I guess I am a little of a type A personality.

 

[Lamorak]

Kept all backer cards, which worked out quite well when we decided to go from pin bags to the baseball card sheets. Most backer cards fit in those things and gives the page support as well as a solid backing so that you don't look through the pages.

Don't really care about rack pin backer cards. Won't trade for a LE pin without the backer card, since most of them range from the basic "Limited Edition" card to the themed cards. This year's attraction posters do NOT look good without their backer cards.

 

[PrincessBecky]

For all the ones which I personally bought - in the store or online, I keep the backer card (Disney Shopping/Store/Auctions/DSF). A lot of pins I traded for had the original backer card (Disney Shopping). When I take the pin off the card (even for the "regular" pins), I label the backer card with a post-it note to identify which pin was originally on the card [yes, I know it has a SKU and can probably be looked up that way, but this is easier]). Then, all the backer cards go into a large ziploc bag.

I do this for all my keepers!

This is exactly what I do. As soon as I take a pin off of it's card I stick a post-it note on the backer card with a description of the pin. I also have clear plastic bins for each character I collect where the backer cards are stored. When you have a large collection (and a ton of backer cards) it really helps to have some sort of organization...so if you end up wanting to trade the pin you can find it's card easily. And even if you think you may never trade a certain pin you may change your mind one day...I never thought I would be open to trading my Jessica Halloween jumbos...but I am now done with Jessica and am actively trying to trade them, so you never know. You may also need the money one day and a pin on it's original card would definitely be more desirable to a buyer than one without.

 

[NChouser]

Bronco. I totally see where you are coming from. I was just venting . I am sorry if you were offended by this post. That was never my intention.

 

[King Niptune]

I only saved my pomh cards and one other le pin. Every other pin I bought or traded (all through dpf) did not have backer cards. I'm starting to regt not keeping all of mine.

 

[TheOtherSteve]

For the black plastic backers from either disney shopping or auction pins, I just wrote what pin it was on the back of the backer with a pencil. I kept my backers almost from the beginning. Even for pins in my trader books, if I have the cards there are in the zipper pocket adjacent to the page so if I trade I can give the backer card as well.

To make matters worse, I actually saved the foam envelope and the clear ziploc bags that the disneyshopping pins came in as well. I guess I am a little of a type A personality.

Welcome to the club

 

[Masamune]

The only time I care whether or not the pin has its original card is if there's a scrapper alert for that pin.

 

[MysticSar]

I don't have all of my cards but I have many xP I've been thinking I need to match them up and display them with the cards rather than without and I'm hoping that'll make them more organized too. When I see traders in the park that have the cards displayed with the pins they seem to get more attention too.

 

[rubyslipperedgoddess]

I can not understand how and why some people feel more entitled than others.

Amen to that sister!

 

[TheHapaOne]

I understand your frustration but it is probably because the 110th legacy series had very distinct backer cards...The only time a backer is really important is if it is unique, or if the pin is heavily faked. In most cases if it doesn't have a card I would rather either be able to see it in person to trade.

 

[eeyorespal]

I have been trading since 2000. If I had kept all the backer cards all these years...I would have had to rent a storage unit just for the black backer cards!

I do save the cards that are special, for both keepers and traders.

Everyone had their own eclectic approach to how they trade and collect, and I try to respect that. I have missed out on trades too when I could not locate an original card. But I do have less understanding when the card in question is just a plain black card with a pintrading logo.

I am so sorry that this trade fell through because of missing 110th backer cards. I am sure I have at least a couple to spare, if the trade could still be salvaged???

 

[nWoJeffDW]

The whole "keeping/needing the backer card" is something that has developed over the past few years in response to two ways of thinking:

1. The overwhelming paranoia that every pin in the world has been scrapped or counterfeited and the only way to guarantee a real pin is with the card.

2. The need to resell the pin and so the backer card is necessary to make it seem you were the original owner.

In the early days of pin trading only specialty cards were kept and even then not all the time. People traded pin for pin out of books and you didn't often see cards change hands with it. If you mailed a pin, you grabbed any backer to send it on as support to survive the post office, not because it mattered. Of course you always had a few that kept everything but they were usually the OCD traders.

I think it's ok to want a specialty card if that's how you're displaying your collection. But some people have just taken it to a ridiculous extreme and miss out on owning a great pin all because of a plastic or paper card that was never meant to matter.

 

[C.Fr3dricks3n]

The whole "keeping/needing the backer card" is something that has developed over the past few years in response to two ways of thinking:

1. The overwhelming paranoia that every pin in the world has been scrapped or counterfeited and the only way to guarantee a real pin is with the card.

2. The need to resell the pin and so the backer card is necessary to make it seem you were the original owner.

In the early days of pin trading only specialty cards were kept and even then not all the time. People traded pin for pin out of books and you didn't often see cards change hands with it. If you mailed a pin, you grabbed any backer to send it on as support to survive the post office, not because it mattered. Of course you always had a few that kept everything but they were usually the OCD traders.

I think it's ok to want a specialty card if that's how you're displaying your collection. But some people have just taken it to a ridiculous extreme and miss out on owning a great pin all because of a plastic or paper card that was never meant to matter.

OCD here?

I wrote in prior threads that ever since 2005, I have always needed and traded with backer cards and original backings/packagings. It goes back to comic books and sports cards. You must always keep them with all original, crisp edges, no creases. No over all mint conditions. I have taken trades on Grails with no backings, minor scratches just to have then trade later for the real keeper. Just because it may be days, months and sometimes years to get the real keeper then trade off my "bookmark". I has passed up some Grails just because it doesn't have a backer card. My MASTER collections themes all have what they came with as if I hand picked them and bought them myself.

I see fewer traders taking off the backers but that's so it fits better in their zip books for carrying purposes.

As an example, I would have to accept a trade for one of the Rapunzel "Grails" just to have it in my book but eventually would need to trade for the "mint" one. But being soooo hard for someone to let go of one, I would have to.

It's all preference. I see it if you have that many traders that you need to take it off the backer cards for space saving, you have too many traders.

Just my 9 cents just because no one nowadays cares about anyone's 2 cents unless it pertains to them in a specific way.

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[starry_solo]

To make matters worse, I actually saved the foam envelope and the clear ziploc bags that the disneyshopping pins came in as well. I guess I am a little of a type A personality.

I have those too! Cuz it has the number on the bag that matches the number on the backer card!

 

[Truckinallngt]

Maybe I am my own brand of crazy but I must admit, I have traded pins for backer cards because to me a pin is incomplete without it, I've also posted about missing a card and someone might post they are discarding theirs so they've sent theirs to me, the legacy backings are unique... the standard black one, no worries but a backing could make or break a trade for me...