Feel a bit cheated

[erudolf]

I don't really see anything wrong with sniping. The way I look at it, if you get sniped it is because you were holding back and trying to get something for less than you were really willing to give for it (which BTW I also think is perfectly fine). Low bid at your own risk.

The real problem is that there are no automatic bids like on eBay. You can't keep your max bid secret and just let it ride. On ebay, if I can't watch the auction end I just put in my max bid and walk away. If I lose, that's more than I wanted to pay and if I win it for less than I was willing to pay, great. But that's not an option here.

I think the lesson to be learned here is that if you are afraid of getting sniped then you should bid what you are willing to give in the first place. Low ball at your own risk.

 

[5titch]

I don't really see anything wrong with sniping. The way I look at it, if you get sniped it is because you were holding back and trying to get something for less than you were really willing to give for it (which BTW I also think is perfectly fine). Low bid at your own risk.

The real problem is that there are no automatic bids like on eBay. You can't keep your max bid secret and just let it ride. On ebay, if I can't watch the auction end I just put in my max bid and walk away. If I lose, that's more than I wanted to pay and if I win it for less than I was willing to pay, great. But that's not an option here.

I think the lesson to be learned here is that if you are afraid of getting sniped then you should bid what you are winning to give in the first place. Low ball at your own risk.

But the problem is the time of the bid
It is 1 minute after the auction was supposed to end. That would be like on ebay, that an item was supposed to end at 6:00, but someone put a bid in at 6:01 and it sold for that price
The person that won pretty much bid a better pin at a time when the auction was supposed to be done

 

[erudolf]

But the problem is the time of the bid
It is 1 minute after the auction was supposed to end. That would be like on ebay, that an item was supposed to end at 6:00, but someone put a bid in at 6:01 and it sold for that price
The person that won pretty much bid a better pin at a time when the auction was supposed to be done

I was just talking about sniping in general, not that aspect. I agree that the bid was not valid and I believe that issue has already been addressed.

 

[mynameisrussell]

I think two different things are being talked about here. What happened in this instance isn't sniping. Sniping is if a better bid comes in at the last second, but still within the time constraints of the auction. Seems like this was just an honest mistake/oversight.

I agree with what erudolf said.

But the problem is the time of the bid
It is 1 minute after the auction was supposed to end. That would be like on ebay, that an item was supposed to end at 6:00, but someone put a bid in at 6:01 and it sold for that price
The person that won pretty much bid a better pin at a time when the auction was supposed to be done

 

[5titch]

I wasn't saying that just in a general stance towards you and sniping, I snipe on ebay all the time just because people tend to jump the price if you bid early

I left for lunch and came back and didn't read up on the thread to notice 2 discussions had started within this 1
My bad

 

[rubyslipperedgoddess]

I think that the real problem here is that these auctions are being run too much like ebay auctions and not enough like REAL auctions. If we're going by ebay rules than absolutely no bids should be accepted after the designated time ends, in this case I don't think that the person bidding at the last minute was necessarily sniping, nor do I think that the auctioneer was necessarily paying attention to the fact that they bid after the auction closed, with that being said in an ebay auction that's it, time over your bid doesn't count. However in real auctions, auctioneers don't have a set time, they give everyone time to consider one last bid before they close the auction. They also have the right to refuse a bid if they feel like it's too low. This is not considered a reserve, but at the same time no one should have to sell something for an amount so little that they might as well have stole the item. It does bother me that the seller has no protection in these DPF auction situations. In a real auction, an item can be pulled if there is only one bidder, because one bid does not make an auction. That however is up to the discretion of the auctioneer, if they feel the one bid is fair they might accept it, or a counter offer from the bidder that is fair. I think in this situation, not pointing any fingers, that because for most of the auction Mark was the only bidder, that regardless of when the auction "ended" he should be allowed to counter, however with the auction rules as they are any offers after the end time are not allowed and in this situation, according to the rules no bids after the designated time should be accepted.

 

[rubyslipperedgoddess]

I shouldn't say "real" auctions as some people only have experience with ebay, but rather live auctions, or traditional auctions.

 

[echoharmony]

Here, snipe snipe snipe! I followed a snipe but it looked very much like a large mouse.

 

[mynameisrussell]

Me and my signature applaud this post.

Here, snipe snipe snipe! I followed a snipe but it looked very much like a large mouse.