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I just received a question about a trader I have dealt with in the past and it got me to thinking that with the problems we had with the trader in Vegas last month I might be able to help people a little. I don't get rid of any of my trading emails and since I have been trading over 14 years now I have a lot of them. (thank you google and yahoo for giving us really big boxes). If anybody has a question about anybody I have traded with in the past feel free to pm me about it. That includes here and on pinpics and soon on dpp also. I am happy to give you any information I have on the past trades. There are some traders that I have given references for in the past that I would no longer recommend, but since I can't remove those, this might be the next best thing.

I can tell you how many trades I have made with a person, how the trades went, would I trade with them again. I don't know if anybody would like this info, but I do have it if you want it.

May 2014 bring you all of your grails!!!

David
 
I almost traded with that Vegas trader and saw you had a positive experience with him at some point... but sadly, people change. Thankfully I didn't get caught up in a trade with that Vegas trader after checking into him further. Your emails contradicted what he was telling me while using a different email address. That scum.

I know Dizpins.com is totally old skool and a dying resource but I wish more traders would use it even if the trade was initiated on DPF. More and more traders are using Facebook and Instagram to trade and some of these newer traders think they can get away with s**t without the entire community knowing about it.

Thank you David for offering your experience and emails with all of us!

If I may offer up some additional advice on safe trading...

1. If something sounds fishy, research the trader. If a trade sounds too good to be true, it may be. So do more research!! Keep an ear out for contradictions made by the other trader as a sign that something isn't right.

2. If you find out the other trader has more than one email address, Pinpics account, or DPF account... something is not right so ask them about it. I'm not saying that everyone who has multiple accounts is up to no good but for the sake of full disclosure, I have one Disney Pin Palace account, one Pinpics account, one DPF account, one FB trading account, and one email address for trading. And all have the same name, or a similar name and avatar/profile pic which identifies who I am.

3. If you're using FB or Instagram to trade, look to see if any of your friends on FB knows the person you're contemplating a trade with. Don't be afraid to ask around, even if it may shake up the trade. Better to protect yourself than lose valuable pins. SUPER IMPORTANT: Just because a reliable trader is friends with another trader on DPF or Facebook, it doesn't automatically mean they've traded before... it just means they're "friends" and really, it doesn't mean anything. Please don't mistake that as a positive reference and an indicator of this person being a trustworthy trader.

4. Check out the pins of a potential trader on Disney Pin Palace and Pinpics. If all their "trader pins" are grail pins or other highly sought-after pins, they may be using their traders to fish for people to make bad trades with. Check out their wants, trades, and collections and if something seems off, look into it. No one with 100 pins in their collection (80 of which are hidden mickey pins) is going to have every Designer Princess in their traders.

5. After doing your research, if you're still unsure about a trader because their reviews aren't stellar, don't be afraid to ask them to send their pins first. If your trade score on DPF is 100% and you have many positive reviews on Dizpins, you have a reputation to protect and a credibility that backs up your trade commitments. Don't be shy to ask. This could apply to every potential trade with someone who has zero feedback on DPF and/or Dizpins.com ... if you are able to tell a trader to check out your references, then you also have the right to ask them to ship first if they have a 0% feedback score.

6. After every trade, leave and request feedback on DPF and Dizpins. Even if the other trader doesn't want feedback, ask them to leave you some. If they don't have a DPF account, they can leave it on Dizpins.com. (Sometimes I get behind on this but I'll be more on top of it in 2014!)

7. Trust your instincts. Always.
 
Mike don't forget if it is a big trade with expensive pins you can always use a third party as a go between and both parties can mail to that person. Then when both packages have arrived and inspected they can be sent on to the other party. I think some of the mods here are willing to do that for you. I would also be willing if asked. Lord knows I have a ton of references here and on dizpins.
 
Mike don't forget if it is a big trade with expensive pins you can always use a third party as a go between and both parties can mail to that person. Then when both packages have arrived and inspected they can be sent on to the other party. I think some of the mods here are willing to do that for you. I would also be willing if asked. Lord knows I have a ton of references here and on dizpins.

SO true. I forgot about this. I've never had to use a third-party to trade but it is a great option... especially with grail/expensive pins!!!
 
All good ideas and great advice! Thank you David for your willingness to serve as a neutral third party to high-end pin trades! Even though I’ve been collecting and trading for decades, every now and then I worry about committing to a trade, especially when they are offered through Facebook. And I do check references for some trades and I’m more than happy to have prospective pin traders checkout my references! It makes the whole pin trading thing a happier experience!

Happy pin trading everyone! Wishing all your pin dreams come true in 2014!! *bjr
 
So, off topic I know, sorry...I saw the "May 2014 bring you all of your grails!!!" and for some reason got that you were going to DLR in May?!? Not sure where that came from, but I was excited because I would like to try to go in May for Kevin and my birthdays! :lol: I am a dork!
 
So, off topic I know, sorry...I saw the "May 2014 bring you all of your grails!!!" and for some reason got that you were going to DLR in May?!? Not sure where that came from, but I was excited because I would like to try to go in May for Kevin and my birthdays! :lol: I am a dork!

Nope we will be in socal at the end of April throwing another pin trading party and for the first time avoiding Disneyland. Unless they come to their senses and bring back my trading tables.
 
Well shoot, :sigh:, IF we make it, it probably won't be until more around the end of May, bummer though, the end of April could have put us there ON my birthday on the second of May! :lol: Shucks!
 
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