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DisneyStore Limited Edition 17" Dolls Discussion

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Still available & I'm dying inside lol. I need her to sell out ASAP before I impulse buy.

:lol: I can totally relate! I keep telling myself things like, I'm not entirely sold on the outfit and accessories, I already own the similar DFDC version, and there MIGHT be a red/purple version since I made the mistake with Pink Aurora last year when I preferred blue.

I'm also hoping that since it's taking this long to sell out, perhaps if I change my mind in the future, the secondary market price won't be too far off from retail. I started collecting with last years Sleeping Beauty and I think this is the first time a 17-inch doesn't sell out within an hour? Has this ever happened in the past?
 
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i remember when snow white first came out it took my disney store weeks before she sold out. But then again this was when the hype of the dolls was barely starting...
 
Still available & I'm dying inside lol. I need her to sell out ASAP before I impulse buy.

I know! I didn't pre-order her last night because of all the rumors that there will be a purple version coming out later in the year (which I would personally prefer), and I also really want some of the DFDC pieces next month and maybe the Art of Jasmine lithographs. But if she stays up there much longer I might just be tempted to pre-order... :)
 
I'm also hoping that since it's taking this long to sell out, perhaps if I change my mind in the future, the secondary market price won't be too far off from retail. I started collecting with last years Sleeping Beauty and I think this is the first time a 17-inch doesn't sell out within an hour? Has this ever happened in the past?

The first set of Anna (coronation) and Elsa (snow queen) were the first ones to sell out within the hour from what I remember. Elsa selling out before Anna. I knew Ariel, who was also released in 2013, hung around for a couple days before selling out. Cinderella, Merida, and the Elinor/Merida set hung around for awhile before selling out. There was not a huge hype with these dolls until Frozen. Everyone was kind of shocked how quickly Aurora sold out. A lot of us expected her to hang around until morning because she wasn't that popular. People weren't happy with the promo images or the fact she was in pink. Merida & Cinderella were on sale in my Disney Store for months. I'm kicking myself not getting Merida now but what can you do? Live and learn.
 
The first set of Anna (coronation) and Elsa (snow queen) were the first ones to sell out within the hour from what I remember. Elsa selling out before Anna. I knew Ariel, who was also released in 2013, hung around for a couple days before selling out. Cinderella, Merida, and the Elinor/Merida set hung around for awhile before selling out. There was not a huge hype with these dolls until Frozen. Everyone was kind of shocked how quickly Aurora sold out. A lot of us expected her to hang around until morning because she wasn't that popular. People weren't happy with the promo images or the fact she was in pink. Merida & Cinderella were on sale in my Disney Store for months. I'm kicking myself not getting Merida now but what can you do? Live and learn.

I honestly wasn't surprised Aurora sold out quickly. At my DS, the first items to sell out are always Frozen, Sleeping Beauty, and Cinderella related. So those princesses seem to be the most popular of the line in my area.

For those still on the fence, as of now, Jasmine IS still available!
 
For those on the fence, I was too. I want Aladdin WAY more then Jasmine, I have the 17" singing Jasmine and figured I didn't need this one. I would put LE Aladdin (He WILL be mine) and my big singing Jasmine together. I thought it was a good idea, but I just ordered her and i feel GREAT! Who are we kidding? These dolls are Majestic! :) and look amazing together. I only have Sleeping Beauty pink, blue and Phillip, but I've seen yalls pictures. Her face mold is much prettier then Aurora's in my opinion (Aurora's dress is incredible to make up for it), and I really can't see ever regretting purchasing a doll from this line. I skipped the last Frozen ones and probably shouldn't have...

Will there be a LE Genie?
 
I honestly wasn't surprised Aurora sold out quickly. At my DS, the first items to sell out are always Frozen, Sleeping Beauty, and Cinderella related. So those princesses seem to be the most popular of the line in my area.

For those still on the fence, as of now, Jasmine IS still available!

Aurora surprised me. She isn't that popular at my store. Ariel, Cinderella, Rapunzel, and Frozen are the main characters in stock at my store. When we get merchandise for Jasmine, Mulan, Pocahontas, and Tiana is sells really fast since there isn't much of it.
 
For those on the fence, I was too. I want Aladdin WAY more then Jasmine, I have the 17" singing Jasmine and figured I didn't need this one. I would put LE Aladdin (He WILL be mine) and my big singing Jasmine together. I thought it was a good idea, but I just ordered her and i feel GREAT! Who are we kidding? These dolls are Majestic! :) and look amazing together. I only have Sleeping Beauty pink, blue and Phillip, but I've seen yalls pictures. Her face mold is much prettier then Aurora's in my opinion (Aurora's dress is incredible to make up for it), and I really can't see ever regretting purchasing a doll from this line. I skipped the last Frozen ones and probably shouldn't have...

Will there be a LE Genie?

I want a Genie doll over a Jafar doll, but ideally I there to be both and have Aladdin and a another version of Jasmine. I don't think they would have that many dolls though for this movie.
 
Wow, I just checked and Jasmine is still available! I know we have more for sell here because they've allotted so few to Europe, but it's so strange how few people showed up in the stores yesterday. Is she really that unpopular? I thought maybe there weren't that many scalpers around this time but the numerous eBay listings would indicate otherwise.
 
Wow, I just checked and Jasmine is still available! I know we have more for sell here because they've allotted so few to Europe, but it's so strange how few people showed up in the stores yesterday. Is she really that unpopular? I thought maybe there weren't that many scalpers around this time but the numerous eBay listings would say otherwise.
I called my store today and they still had some. I couldn't make it yesterday and didn't even try because I thought they would sell out. So weird.
 
Yeah the way this doll release has played out is really bizarre. I can't believe she is still available! Its probably due to that really poor picture Disney used for her combined with the expo and all the other things coming out back to back. Now I am really interested in seeing how the Designer dolls sell.
 
I think she hasn't sold out because of:

1. the ONE picture they released of her (so almost zero hype, and not many people knew about her as much as the others)
2. was poor and really shiny looking, so that many people who did know about her didn't like her.
3. Jasmine isn't the most popular princess, and I really do think it's due to her ethnicity and coloring, and the fact that she wasn't the main character in her movie.
4. Increased price
5. Scalpers are becoming more picky about which dolls they choose to scalp; they have learned that not all princesses sell as well as Elsa, and buy accordingly; they probably got the lack of hype vibe and lesser popularity of Jasmine, and did not think they would make good profit from her.
6. The rest of the collector dolls yet to be released this year so people waiting and saving money for those.

I am fairly positive they will make limited 17 inch Mulan and Pocahontas because frankly it's insulting that they would do several princes and villains (some of who also took several days to sell out) and NOT do the last two princesses in the princess line.
 
I think she hasn't sold out because of:

1. the ONE picture they released of her (so almost zero hype, and not many people knew about her as much as the others)
2. was poor and really shiny looking, so that many people who did know about her didn't like her.
3. Jasmine isn't the most popular princess, and I really do think it's due to her ethnicity and coloring, and the fact that she wasn't the main character in her movie.
4. Increased price
5. Scalpers are becoming more picky about which dolls they choose to scalp; they have learned that not all princesses sell as well as Elsa, and buy accordingly; they probably got the lack of hype vibe and lesser popularity of Jasmine, and did not think they would make good profit from her.
6. The rest of the collector dolls yet to be released this year so people waiting and saving money for those.

I am fairly positive they will make limited 17 inch Mulan and Pocahontas because frankly it's insulting that they would do several princes and villains (some of who also took several days to sell out) and NOT do the last two princesses in the princess line.

1. That picture has nothing to do with Jasmine not selling out, because if the people who were doubting her saw the newer images, they would have gotten the doll by now and it would have sold out. Besides, a lot of people here said that they wouldn't get the doll because of that image, and ended up getting the doll because of the images that were on the website.
2. Same reason as the first one. I know someone who despises the shine, but ended up getting the doll.
3. Jasmine is not popular, but I don't think it's because of her ethnicity. I think I've touched upon how her character (and several of the ethnic princesses) are pretty much just normal human beings. Nothing magical about them. She isn't a mermaid and she doesn't have a magical dress transformation. So when kids are growing up, they don't pay that much attention to Jasmine because she is just a normal human being. Also, Aladdin is the main character and most girls love Aladdin more.
4. Increased price doesn't matter. If increased price was an issue, none of the Frozen SP15 dolls would have sold. Also, LE500 Cinderella.
5. Scalpers could be the main culprit here. They probably realized that no one wants to get Jasmine beyond the usual doll collectors and that people would pretty much just preorder her on release day.
6. Generally speaking, collectors will buy both, but this might be a valid excuse. But with the rumors going around about the other dolls this year, I don't think people are that excited about them.

As for the possibility of a Mulan and Pocahontas, they're pretty much nonexistent at this point and I doubt Disney will bother making them. Jasmine was the final nail in the coffin. They already got the sign that not that many people are interested in getting them from last year's sets and Disney will not waste their resources to make them. I suggest people just move on from ever having these two Disney princesses made. Another reason would be because Jasmine actually sells more than Pocahontas and Mulan... So that's that. I could maybe see a LE2500 with Mulan and Poca, but I doubt they'll make them. Besides, what can they do with Pocahontas? She'll end up looking as plain as Jasmine.
 
2 things:
I think it comes in waves. The first two frozen dolls grew in value within a short period of time. So money makers jumped on the next two frozen dolls...since they remain at a low price, people walk away from doll buying.
And secondly, I myself was not paying attention. DS did not put out a blog post on The Buzz, and DS facebook page announced this in early July....people forget, I never saw anything. I'll bet if they announced it again, it would sell out in a snap.
 
1. That picture has nothing to do with Jasmine not selling out, because if the people who were doubting her saw the newer images, they would have gotten the doll by now and it would have sold out. Besides, a lot of people here said that they wouldn't get the doll because of that image, and ended up getting the doll because of the images that were on the website.
2. Same reason as the first one. I know someone who despises the shine, but ended up getting the doll.
3. Jasmine is not popular, but I don't think it's because of her ethnicity. I think I've touched upon how her character (and several of the ethnic princesses) are pretty much just normal human beings. Nothing magical about them. She isn't a mermaid and she doesn't have a magical dress transformation. So when kids are growing up, they don't pay that much attention to Jasmine because she is just a normal human being. Also, Aladdin is the main character and most girls love Aladdin more.
4. Increased price doesn't matter. If increased price was an issue, none of the Frozen SP15 dolls would have sold. Also, LE500 Cinderella.
5. Scalpers could be the main culprit here. They probably realized that no one wants to get Jasmine beyond the usual doll collectors and that people would pretty much just preorder her on release day.
6. Generally speaking, collectors will buy both, but this might be a valid excuse. But with the rumors going around about the other dolls this year, I don't think people are that excited about them.

As for the possibility of a Mulan and Pocahontas, they're pretty much nonexistent at this point and I doubt Disney will bother making them. Jasmine was the final nail in the coffin. They already got the sign that not that many people are interested in getting them from last year's sets and Disney will not waste their resources to make them. I suggest people just move on from ever having these two Disney princesses made. Anothe1.r reason would be because Jasmine actually sells more than Pocahontas and Mulan... So that's that. I could maybe see a LE2500 with Mulan and Poca, but I doubt they'll make them. Besides, what can they do with Pocahontas? She'll end up looking as plain as Jasmine.

1. My first point was more about the fact that there was only one picture released of her, on one day, so very little hype. Unlike the other dolls, who got several pics and closeups. So people who weren't paying as close attention wouldn't even have known about her at all. I heard that many people who were at the disney store on preorder day didn't even know she existed.

2. Or people who were doubting her because of the shine didn't get her because she still had the shine. Its not like the new pictures showed that they eliminated the shine, it's still there, just not as shiny as it appeared to be. But still there. There could have been just as many people who did not change their mind about the shine as there were who did.

3. I definitely think the race thing factors in. Not sure how much the magic stuff really factors in because there is magic in all the movies. Out of all the white princesses, only Rapunzel and Elsa has powers, and Ariel is a mermaid but with no other powers. I suppose Cinderella and Aurora and Belle had magical dress transformations, but so did Tiana and Tiana's not popular. Anna and Snow White have no powers or dress transformations. You could also argue that Pocahontas could talk to trees, Mulan had a magic dragon, and Jasmine got to ride a magic carpet. I think looks factor into their popularity a lot more than you would think. None of them are really 'normal' human beings, they are all remarkable and have been touched by magic in some way. I also don't think most girls love Aladdin more.

4. Perhaps increased price doesn't matter as much, but I do think it matters. Some collectors want more for the increased price, and Jasmine isn't any more detailed than the previous $99 ones, so people may not think she is worth it. And $20 difference is a lot for some people. I do think it is a deterrent, though maybe a minor one. Also, Aurora is all over ebay for almost retail, and so are the Frozen 2015 dolls. This point relates to the scalper point; they are only going to pay the increased price if they think they will get more for it later. And a lot don't think Jasmine, who is less popular than Elsa, Anna, or Aurora, will sell for the higher price.

6. Not all collectors are the same, so I don't think 'generally speaking' is accurate. Not all collectors can afford or want every single release that comes out. I for example will only buy the ones I love. I am not a completist. If I didn't absolutely love Jasmine, then I will want to save my money for potentially better dolls later.

I'm going to disagree and say there will definitely be Mulan and Pocahontas, perhaps in smaller edition sizes, but they will eventually come. They still did princes and villains despite the fact that previous princes and villains didn't sell out immediately. The 17 inch dolls have always eventually sold out, which matters more I think than how fast they sell out. I think 17 inch Jasmine will eventually sell out too. I don't think the 17 inch doll sales can be compared directly with the smaller designer doll sales anyways. They can be compared, but it's not the same either. As for Pocahontas, Mattel has done some beautiful collector looking dolls of her, so I would think Disney can too.
 
Really no one can give a straight 100% correct answer as to why she hasn't sold out yet. You could say that its a race issue, poor marketing, the character herself and so on, but we will probably never really know. I thought for sure that she would sell out once more pictures of her were released, especially considering that she one of Disney's top ten best selling princesses. Plus she looks a MILLION times better than that awful Facebook promo picture. This whole thing makes me wonder how Aladdin and Jafar will sell.
 
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Can we talk about the fact that these dolls originally did not sell out quickly?!? The only reason the last few releases sold out quickly was because of the Frozen hype. Ariel, one of the most popular princesses, took 3 days to sell out. The dolls that sold out quickly were with the Frozen hype. The first Anna and Elsa set were the dolls that started the huge hype in these dolls and it was because they were part of Frozen. Aurora and the Sleeping Beauty dolls came out in the middle of the Frozen craze. Scalpers thought all the dolls would be popular so they snapped them up. Same with the live action Cinderella dolls. With the last Frozen set being somewhat of a bust, scalpers are not out to buy these dolls in droves anymore. These dolls are going to go back to their pre-Frozen status where they don't sell that quickly. Merida, Cinderella (animated), and the Merida/Elinor set were on sale for months. I had multiple opportunities to buy the dolls in store for months and they sat online for awhile. Even with Ariel, you had a 3 day window to preorder her online. I don't remember her selling out much better in the stores. These dolls are popular among a select group of collectors. Not all collectors collect these dolls and the majority of the people who collect these dolls collect specific characters. Its why you will see the prices for the characters like Alice, Rapunzel, Ariel, Anna, and Elsa remaining rather high. They won't drop down as quickly or as much as say Merida will. Your average Disney fan doesn't buy these dolls. Your Frozen collectors are what made these so popular for a hot second. However, with Frozen fever dying down, you are not going to see people rushing to buy them. It has nothing to do with Jasmine being the princess being released. People have wanted this doll for a long time. The ones who have waited, preordered her. Jasmine is a popular princess. She is the most popular princess of color. Don't kid yourself into thinking she is not popular. Jasmine is marketed a whole lot more than Aladdin and he is the title character in his movie. She is in the princess line up and he is not. Frankly, you could have had another character being released and I doubt they would have sold out. These dolls are just not popular enough to the majority of Disney fans. Disney knows these dolls tend to sit for a few days to a few months. It has happened in the past and it will happen again. The selling out within the hour has honestly probably passed. The next release this fall with tell but I cannot see any of the dolls they'll release sell out within the hour again.
 
whelp... i took the plunge and preordered her.
i also ordered a stack of peacock feather earrings off of ebay to attach onto her skirt things.

the thing that bothered me the most about this doll is how thin the flaps of her skirt seem, it kind of cheapens the entire doll.
i'm hoping it's just the camera angle and it's thicker in person. it literally looks paper thin in the official photos >_<

also, if there isn't a 17" Pocahontas LE doll at some point, i will be heartbroken :(
 
Can we talk about the fact that these dolls originally did not sell out quickly?!? The only reason the last few releases sold out quickly was because of the Frozen hype. Ariel, one of the most popular princesses, took 3 days to sell out. The dolls that sold out quickly were with the Frozen hype. The first Anna and Elsa set were the dolls that started the huge hype in these dolls and it was because they were part of Frozen. Aurora and the Sleeping Beauty dolls came out in the middle of the Frozen craze. Scalpers thought all the dolls would be popular so they snapped them up. Same with the live action Cinderella dolls. With the last Frozen set being somewhat of a bust, scalpers are not out to buy these dolls in droves anymore. These dolls are going to go back to their pre-Frozen status where they don't sell that quickly. Merida, Cinderella (animated), and the Merida/Elinor set were on sale for months. I had multiple opportunities to buy the dolls in store for months and they sat online for awhile. Even with Ariel, you had a 3 day window to preorder her online. I don't remember her selling out much better in the stores. These dolls are popular among a select group of collectors. Not all collectors collect these dolls and the majority of the people who collect these dolls collect specific characters. Its why you will see the prices for the characters like Alice, Rapunzel, Ariel, Anna, and Elsa remaining rather high. They won't drop down as quickly or as much as say Merida will. Your average Disney fan doesn't buy these dolls. Your Frozen collectors are what made these so popular for a hot second. However, with Frozen fever dying down, you are not going to see people rushing to buy them. It has nothing to do with Jasmine being the princess being released. People have wanted this doll for a long time. The ones who have waited, preordered her. Jasmine is a popular princess. She is the most popular princess of color. Don't kid yourself into thinking she is not popular. Jasmine is marketed a whole lot more than Aladdin and he is the title character in his movie. She is in the princess line up and he is not. Frankly, you could have had another character being released and I doubt they would have sold out. These dolls are just not popular enough to the majority of Disney fans. Disney knows these dolls tend to sit for a few days to a few months. It has happened in the past and it will happen again. The selling out within the hour has honestly probably passed. The next release this fall with tell but I cannot see any of the dolls they'll release sell out within the hour again.

Yes you are right; the Frozen craze is what caused these dolls to sell out immediately for a while, and that has passed. I do think Jasmine is popular, but she is often overlooked in merchandise and shoved to the background of the promo art. Same with the other nonwhite princesses. Why would anyone kid themselves into thinking she's not popular? Disney is the one that seems to do that from the way they treat her merchandise and stuff. But if she was just as popular or more popular than the white princesses, why wouldn't they make more or better merchandise for her, or showcase her more? I think that's where her perceived lesser popularity comes from.

You're probably right in that any other character wouldn't have sold out right away either, though I think if it had been another Snow White or Belle being released, they would have sold out faster. That would have been due less to their popularity than the fact that many collectors didn't get them the first time around though.
 
Jasmine is actually one of my favorite princesses but few things caused me to pass on her: 1) the color of the dress is not accurate and generally the 17-inch have stayed somewhat true to the original film;2) the design/color family overall is way too similar to her dfdc version; and last but not least, 3) for $120, I kind of expected more details or fabric, I mean sure her dress in the original film wasn't too extravagant but if Disney managed to amp up Auroras dress yet still kept the cut somewhat true to the film, I think they had more opportunities and room for improvement for jasmine. Bottoms line, I'm not blown away with her to preorder her 3 months ahead of all the rest of the releases on top of what may be released at the expo. :/ just imho.
 
I think with the price hike people are definitely going to be more particular about which dolls they purchase. Like its been mentioned we also have D23 so maybe people are holding out for that to see what other options they have. I think it's been the fact that we've just had so many dolls these past 2 years maybe some people find it a bit overkill. Good times for collectors though.

Im thinking of going to my local store when we get them in the UK as I'd love to see her in person first.
 
Re: Jasmine's shimmer

As someone who LOATHES and DETESTS the shiny skin, it embarrasses me to admit after seeing Jasmine in person, I LOVE it on her. It either suits her complexion or Disney finally figured out how to make it look nice.

I thought it was a cool effect on Ursula, I tolerated it on Maleficent because she's a fairy (which is why I loved it on Tink and her friends), but I refuse to add 2015 Anna and Elsa to my collection and I removed the shine from LE4000 Cinderella--but only because I loved the movie enough to put work into her.

However, I do have issues with certain aspects of Jasmine. Her outfit is colored all wrong, and it makes her look a little plain since she's only hunter green and gold--even her skin. If Jasmine wasn't my second favorite princess (my childhood favorite) and didn't make such a beautiful doll, I probably would've passed on her. Plus, with all the rumors of other versions of her, I was tempted to wait and see if I wanted to choose my favorite... but I love Jasmine enough to want every version of her. Quel sigh.
 
I want a Genie doll over a Jafar doll, but ideally I there to be both and have Aladdin and a another version of Jasmine. I don't think they would have that many dolls though for this movie.

If they have Genie, Aladdin and another version of Jasmine my head might explode! What a dream lineup that would be! I don't know how i'd do it, but i would get them...
 
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