Pinpics Proposes Ebay Photo Use Ban
Correct - but that purpose is not granting Pinpics permission to ban me from my own picture!
This goes back to donating photos from 5 & 10 years ago...do you realize how long it would take to find the original, which is why I gave it to the database in the first place! My CDs are by number of scan, not character or title of the pin. Which is why I have a problem with this decision. My decision was based on it being a tool for myself, while giving the community a better image of the item.
As another concern - what if Pinpics/Lansam decides to implement this policy selectively? Giving their friends permission to use the photos; while reporting photo stealing to Ebay on others?
NOTE: We are not taking sides, just wondering.The fact is that until the Terms of Use are updated, every picture added to PinPics was done so granting permission for anyone to freely use on eBay with credit to PinPics. I don't see how Lansam can revoke the permission that the original owners have granted. This argument changes once the ToU is updated but we are not there yet.
Also, you keep creating scenarios that hasn't happened and no indication that it would. Don't worry about things that haven't happened.
Quit being lazy and having pinpics do you're work for you.
So, it's OK for Pinpics to be lazy and allow US to do their work by posting these pins and their pictures,
+1
Granted, i'm not a "power seller" but in all ebay auctions i have made, I have always made it a point to take the most detailed photos I can of the actual item they will be receiving. However, I understand that this is often not feasible for someone that has 5, 10, 20 or more of the same item.
In any case, a photo of one of the actual items in your possession is much better than using stock photos or photos from around the net.
Hmmmm ....
First of all, I don't think TiggerNut created the proposed Pinpics policy that "their" (our?) pictures will no longer be allowed on eBay.
So, it's OK for Pinpics to be lazy and allow US to do their work by posting these pins and their pictures, but somehow it's extra wrong or extra lazy for Pinpics to do our work by allowing us to use pictures posted by other community members? Interesting...
And for the record, I have NEVER sold on eBay but I do purchase there a lot. I'm not looking forward to the sudden increase in the number of Disney pins posted with no photos...
While I have been mainly a lurker, I've been in pins for years (I posted more on dizpins). I didn't post anything before this because I was waiting to see how the switchover would pan out and give them a chance (but I've been reading all the posts). All the excitement I was hoping for has now been replaced by 'why would they do that'? I feel Ebay is the ultimate trade assistant (thats how I use it). I sell the pins I am willing to trade and buy my wants that my 3-4 traders never are able to trade for on pinpics. There is a built in reference center, and I have protection via paypal. To me it just makes no sense to not allow shared pics. Sure I can take my own pics, but I also will increase my price. If anything, I feel like it may be time to just put up my whole lot and move on (keeping my most cherished) before all the fun is sucked out.
true, it _IS_ a lot of work, and many aren't willing to do that.I respectfully disagree and say that it IS feasible, it's just a lot of work!I have been selling on eBay since 1999 (no pins yet however, only buy those) and yes, to run a lot of auctions at a time means hours of work beforehand, mainly taking and editing pictures. Selling on eBay is *work* and to sell more, you need to work at it more. There's nothing stopping anyone from working harder and listing more auctions, other than their own obligations.
To say that over X auctions is too hard so you get to skip steps is silly, in my opinion. As others have said, even with the best of intentions, we miss flaws or overlook things. I think that has happened to every eBay seller out there! (and if it hasn't yet, it will...just human nature). Using the same pictures over and over is bound to lead to this kind of problem at some time, because that picture does not represent the actual item you are selling.
I don't think it's a terrible sin, but I do think it is a risk, and if you choose to take it, acknowledge it as a risk and don't say "well I can't take pictures of my auctions because there are too many of them."
This perplexes me. Why would you need to raise your price because you can't use pinpics picture? Is it really that hard to take a photo with your digital camera or phone and post onto eBay?
And why is pin collecting suddenly not fun because you can't use pinpic pictures on eBay? That makes no sense.
My only concern is that this is the start of something bigger. First eBay then what? Any forum other than PinTalk? Will those of us on DPF who use/link those pictures to our trade/sale threads are going to be in trouble. What if I want to have a discussion about a group of pins that I need (such as a grail list)? How can I photograph a pin I don't have? The implications are great and I think we have a right to be concerned. This could be the beginning of the end of the hobby as we knew it. Where information was shared freely and openly. Guess it's a good thing I copied all my information to Excel.
Pinpics isn't making money off our efforts but eBay sellers are making money from everyone else's work.
Except now Lansam is planning to make money off my personal work product on adding pins, descriptions and images to their Pin Pics database.
If this policy is to be effective, wouldn’t it apply to all transactions?
I have now moved from mild annoyance to disgust with this topic. This is just rediculous....people would honestly consider filing suit of pictures of pins....not even the pins themselves...PICTURES OF PINS!!! Unreal. Aren't there more important things in the world to be fighting for?
The key word is DONATE. Since when does donating something give you the right to dictate that is must be shared? If you donate a can of corn to a homeless shelter are you going to be outraged that they put it in chili rather than as a side because that is how you intended it to be used? This is just so petty to me and makes me want to quit more than anything LANSAM has done.
Honestly, if I were them I'd be so pissed off at this point that I would remove everything some people have contributed to the site and set out on a quest to replace the pins and information. I'd assign new numbers and new names. I'd have the "owns" list at my disposal and I'm sure I'd be able to find people willing to help without the expectation of getting something in return. Sure....I may not find those ultra obscure pins, but I'm guessing the 24 or so people that actually want them will get over it. Especially since there is pretty much zero chance of them ever finding them anyways.
I'm done with this. They could torch the site right now and I wouldn't care. (obviously I would care but I'm so fed up with this bickering right now that this is how I feel at the moment.)
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