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TiggerNut

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I see the ownership transfered back in October 2011, and saw written promises of changes last month...

But has anything been changed to Pinpics yet?

Just curious...maybe I missed something, since I don't use it for trade requests.
 
I am just curious -as they had a booth at the NFFC show, took lots of pictures; none of which were added to the Database, most notably the pins that were released at that event.

I undertand web changes take time, but why not add the photos taken? If the goal is to improve the quality of that found on the database, one would think adding your new photo would be an easy quick fix.

I mean..why else take all those hi-def photos of pins front and back?
 
who knows but if they do have their own lives and they only stated changes about 2 weeks ago going off the update on the main page of pinpics so I would just go about what you do already and not let it bother you.
 
Not bother me? That is a pretty unfair statement to make when I merely just made an inquiry.

If you are too busy in your life to maintain a database that used to have 24/7 updates and moderator control -then perhaps you need to reconsider the commitment.

We have newbies buying a site with no practical pin experience to speak of. Thus far -I am suspect by certain behaviors and believe the pin trading community has the right to be watchdogs and question what is happening.

If we are allowed to mention potential scrappers, bad pins & the like; aren't I allowed in the normal course of things to comment, question and inquire on a database that I contribute to?
 

whoa calm down. All I said was dont let it bother you as they might have been busy due to unforeseen commitments, Im pretty sure if you were in charge of pinpics and something came along you wouldnt keep on top of it.

I dont think its an unfair statement when it seems it is ony you who wants to know the ins and outs of pinpics since the new guys took over. Where as the rest of us who contribute as well as you are just getting along as normal which you should be doing since they will update us on what is going on when they see fit and when time permits them to. So be patient thats all.

you can take my words how you see fit but these things take time and when they are doing it out of their spare time then things may take longer. They will say when things are changing etc when they deem it fit.
 
I was not even close to pin trading when Pinpics started, but I am sure perfect pictures and descriptions were not the norm, neither did they spring up overnight.

Right now, I do actively trade - my last confirmed trade was yesterday. Everything is running as usual, the mods are in place trying to smooth out less-than-sweet trades. One of their mods anwered a personal question I had about 3 weeks ago via pm. There is nothing to be suspect of really. I do not follow every single pin released, but the recent releases such as family portrait pins etc, seem to be added fairly regularly.

In my understanding, their first task is to merge pinpics and pintalk and improve the comp-geek related things. Some of those changes might not even be visible to us at all. I think pintalk would be actually a better platform to raise questions similar to yours as it would give the new owners a fair chance to address concerns of the pin tading community.

I just checked Anthony's first post on Feb 12th and somewhere in the middle he mentions this:

While the core of PinPics will always remain free for all to use, we will also be offering a few premium options for the more serious collectors out there who just can't get enough.
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The promise that "the core" of Pinpics would remain free and the same as before - is kept nicely so far IMO. If I remember right, they also gave a "spring" timeline for the changes to come. Well, spring is officially not until March 20th

Looking at his statement I am guessing maybe those high def pictures will be part of the "premium package". Who knows?
 
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If it were me, I would want to totally rebuild the database. I think you could make things easier if there were more fields like if you select that it is a movie pin, you would input specifically what movie. A place where you could list what characters are on the pin. A place to list if its part of a series and which series it is from. This would eliminate the need for so many pin groups, and they wouldn't need updating since everything could then be searchable. Also, a field for the backstamp wording. More picture slots. Not to mention, all the other improvements people say they want like the ability to prioritize wants.

In that case, I think it might be easier to create a brand new database, input the existing information, with all the new additions. Since they appear to be hiring out the backend work, I wouldn't expect to see much improvements to the existing database because that would completely go away and would just result in unnecessary "busy work." When the entire new database was ready for prime time, then switch it over all at once.

To use as an example. I have a bunch of pin frames to hang in our spare bedroom. I could just hang them, show I accomplished something. BUT, I want to paint the room. So instead of wasting time hanging them, I am waiting until after the "back end" in this case, a paint job is complete. So its one big change all at once, instead of doing something minor, then doing the major change later.
 
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Stitch2814 said:
who knows but if they do have their own lives and they only stated changes about 2 weeks ago going off the update on the main page of pinpics so I would just go about what you do already and not let it bother you.
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It has been a lot longer than 2 weeks. 3 more days and it will be 2 months since the partnership has been announced.
 

I really like these ideas Hopemax!
 
They are actually working on a lot of stuff, I promise. It just takes time, and it isn't just the efforts of a few people, it is the efforts of many so then everyone has to coordinate as well. I think you will start seeing more very shortly (in the next few months).
 
I would have to concur with Hopemax's speculation that they are creating a whole new site in the background, while leaving up the existing site. This gives the new owners a chance to completely revamp a site, test it, tweak it, and then make a big bang cutover, when the new site is all ready to go. It also gives them a chance to backout and return to a known running entity, if the cutover doesn't go as smoothly as planned. This could be especially true, if there are going to be major changes in layout and overall operation of the site.

I also think it's wise that they haven't specified a date yet. Missing dates is very bad and just causes more drama, in my opinion.

If I think about it, it's probably better that we haven't seen any changes yet, as that would likely mean that there isn't a grand plan and that the plan was to simply tweak what was already there.

So... Completely my opinion, but I think they may be doing what Hopemax has suggested in that they are building a completely new site based on the existing data and will debut it when it is tested and ready to go.
 
PinPics layout looks so old. It definitely needs an updated, modern version. Maybe a flash site or something.
 

As the new owners have only been into pins for a year compared to the 12+ years many other people have been using the site, I think it would be great if while creating the new site, if they had it live as a beta and they got input from the community on the site. Have pin traders that know the site like the back of their hand go in there and kick the tires and help weed out possible bugs faster. I think having more hands using a new version of the site could help get it completed faster. I do not think it should be the only site until it is 100% ready but I think having the new site and classic site available will be great.
 
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LOL! So demanding of a free service that requires someone else's time and money... Take a deep breath, use the site the way you have been, and everything will be fine
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I have invested in Pinpics. I have taken THOUSANDS of pictures and contributed valuable information being placed on that site. My time and efforts over the past DECADE have value. I care what happens to a database that I contribute to.

Hypothetical - What if Pinpics was bought by a counterfeiter?

That is why I pay attention. I care, love and do well in this industry. I am not into slandering or defamation -but I am going to watch closely. I say nothing here that isn't whispered about in the community. I am not afraid to state an opionion and will identify fake and rumor.

The database was FREE because people donated time, money and resources to the project. That has value in its own right.
 

You are worrying about hypothetical situations before any changes have been revealed. If the implied accusation is that this will become a pay-to-use site, then logically, it will fail. I am sure they recognize this, so it will not happen. Pinpics relies on user-submitted photos and information, right? Why in the world would anyone contribute if they have no access to the aforementioned data?
 
Its all an interesting debate what I have noticed is that individuals are not adding to the datanase anywhere near as often since this happened and gtankly I dont blame them! Yes I have concerns not least is the one mentioned here I am one of the 12 year plus veterans and worry about people who have been in the hobby so short a time taking it over. Interestingly I dont care that pinpics doesnt have bells and whistles its fine as it is which in some ways is the lfieblodd of my 10000 colelction. If I have to pay for it I will - lack of information certainly at the moment which leaves me wodnering if it has relaly been thought out, I am willing to go with the flow but do udnerstand peoples concerns and frankly I am slowly trasnferinning my colleciton to excel as a safeguard.
Jacqui
 
Ahhh ...until a clear announcement is made, all of this remains as speculation.

The old owners were veterans and they knew what they were doing.

The new owners might be new to pin collecting, but I do not think that Figgy & Britt would transfer their brain child to anyone just willy-nilly.

Yes, it is true that changes have been announced here and there, but it was only on 12th of February when one of the new owners , Anthony Medina, published his first post giving us an idea of what is to come. It has barely been 2 weeks and 1 day.

TiggerNut said:
Hypothetical - What if Pinpics was bought by a counterfeiter?
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Please give a wee bit more credit to Figgy & Britt before publishing sentences like these.
I do not see any merit to such ideas even when they are hypothetical. I think the only outcome of such statements will be a mini hysteria, a lot of unnecessary speculation and more forum drama. Frankly, DPF had its fine share of all in the past. We don't need any more of that.

TiggerNut said:
The database was FREE because people donated time .....
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It is not "was", it still "is".
 
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Pin Pal said:
Why in the world would anyone contribute if they have no access to the aforementioned data?
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A point I have been trying to drive home.

In the LAST WEEK - people have been banned from Pinpics with no explaination, or email from the owners. Now they cannot access their collections. (And...no..they were not involved in a trading issue.). This CONCERNS me.
 
I had this long post written out on answering everything in this post that upset me but in the end I am gonna say this. Give them time the changes are real and will NOT happen over night. The immediate need to see changes is one of the reasons that we did not "announce" the ownership change months ago. Also there is a difference in my opinion about asking when changes will happen and "stirring" things up. Just be patient guys I would never have let them take the site if they weren't going to do wonderful things with it. You can believe me or not your choice.

figgy
 

I guess I have been out of the loop somewhat. I guess I missed those threads about bannings?!? I can not see them banning someone without good reason.
 
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