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Some of us are experiencing some difficulties since last week. I keep getting signed out. Clearing my cache and restarting my laptop usually helps. I wonder people mis-interpreted software bugs?
 
Pin Pal said:
LOL! So demanding of a free service that requires someone else's time and money...
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I do not consider PinPics to be a free service. Up until the sell, the site was supported by donations from the members. The content is generated from the members. I have added pins, sent better pictures and donated money to keep the servers running. Yes, some people don't contribute anything and for them, it would be a free service, but to a lot of people, they put their time and money into the site and care about its future success.
 
bretu said:
Is this forum run or owned by the same people involved in Pin Pics. And can we speak freely here without fear off repercussions.
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This site is not affiliated with Pinpics. I can't speak for the mods here, but I'd think that as long as what you say is respectful, well thought out, and is truthful then you should be ok.
 
We here at DPF encourage lively discussion and debates, as long as things are kept civil and we show respect to one another. We understand everyone has their own opinion, which is perfectly reasonable and understandable.

This thread is doing fine right now, guys. Let's keep it peaceful and thought-provoking
 


Figgy, I have complete faith in you and I don't think you would have let go of your baby without doing your due dilligence. I'm waiting and watching and hopefully the wonderful things will come in time. Thanks for being kind and responding to the tirade.
 

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Hey Figgy question -as your posts say both.

Was the company SOLD when the partnership was announced? Or was the partnership formed; and then the decision to sell 2 months later?
 

Question, where can people donate? I can't see any PayPal donation button anywhere on PinPics or some form of equivalent.
 
DoomScarf said:
Question, where can people donate? I can't see any PayPal donation button anywhere on PinPics or some form of equivalent.
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Lauren there used to be yearly hosting fee drive. Only once a year and volunteer, not mandatory. As far as I know, this year the new owners covered the fees themselves making it truly free as far as the $$ part goes. Of course they still need people to contribute pictures and descptions - at least so far.
 
They won't tell me either. Figgy was told she shouldn't discuss it with me because it wasn't my account.

However, I DO AGREE with Broncobilly -that is of EXTREME importance.

And, as stated before -asking questions abouy Pinpics is fair game. Sturring up is stating something untrue. I have only asked questions..to which NOTHING has been answered.
 
TiggerNut said:
I have only asked questions..to which NOTHING has been answered.
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Le sigh. We think we and the Medinas have been very forthcoming about what to expect and when to expect it. Even so, I will attempt to answer every question in this thread to the best of my ability. My answers will follow.
 
Since Britt is answering questions, I do have one concerning user submitted updates.

I could take pics for some pins that are missing, I could take pics for pins that have bad pics, I have some pins that need to be added. But if there is work being done behind the scenes I don't want to duplicate efforts and make for unnecessary busywork for the mods (I already got slapped down awhile ago for making comments with search terms so that I could find things easier as just creating work for the mods). If the database is going to change, for example, if there is a plan to add pictures of both front and back, should we hold off on sending additions? Or could there be a format announced so that if we do want to send stuff, we could send all the things necessary for the "new" pinpics.
 
TiggerNut said:
I see the ownership transfered back in October 2011, and saw written promises of changes last month...
But has anything been changed to Pinpics yet?
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Not yet, other than removing the donate buttons, since the Medinas are willing to cover the costs themselves. My understanding is that a professional contractor has been hired to recode the site and integrate it with Pin Talk. Anthony announced that changes should start appearing this Spring, which is I suspect what the contractor has promised. Hopefully this is one of those contractors who can estimate effectively, lest the hordes grow even more restless.

I am just curious -as they had a booth at the NFFC show, took lots of pictures; none of which were added to the Database, most notably the pins that were released at that event.
I undertand web changes take time, but why not add the photos taken?
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I don't know the answer to this. Maybe it has something to do with the upcoming site changes, or maybe they haven't had time.

aren't I allowed in the normal course of things to comment, question and inquire on a database that I contribute to?
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Of course you are. Keep them coming, but keep in mind that I don't read the forums every day. I've even been known to miss a (gasp) week here or there. Feel free to PM me if there's something that warrants addressing publicly.

It has been a lot longer than 2 weeks. 3 more days and it will be 2 months since the partnership has been announced.
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A lot has happened in those months. The Medinas obviously didn't have everything set up and ready to go when we were first discussing this deal months ago. Since then we've made an agreement, transferred and updated hosting arrangements, discussed the technical aspects of the site and listened and commented on their plans for the future, carefully addressed the concerns of the pin community, scoped the work to be performed, and then they researched and hired a contractor to perform it. Somewhere in there we even had Christmas.

I know that folks are eager for change, and I refer you to Anthony's post about this Spring sometime, which again is probably what the contractor has promised.

Hypothetical - What if Pinpics was bought by a counterfeiter?
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Figgy and I are convinced that this is not the case. I don't know what else to add.

Pinpics relies on user-submitted photos and information, right? Why in the world would anyone contribute if they have no access to the aforementioned data?
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I agree completely. All right, I admit that I included this question so that I could agree with it.

Its all an interesting debate what I have noticed is that individuals are not adding to the datanase anywhere near as often since this happened and gtankly I dont blame them!
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Pins added in October: 463, November: 397, December: 497, January: 645, February: 347.

In the LAST WEEK - people have been banned from Pinpics with no explaination, or email from the owners. Now they cannot access their collections. (And...no..they were not involved in a trading issue.). This CONCERNS me.
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You know full well the details surrounding the recent ban that you're concerned about. And yet, the mods are going out of their way to resolve it nonetheless.

EDIT: for clarity, changed "concerns you" to "you're concerned about."

Some of us are experiencing some difficulties since last week. I keep getting signed out. Clearing my cache and restarting my laptop usually helps. I wonder people mis-interpreted software bugs?
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It possible your cookie cache is messed up due to the IP address of the server changing. Try removing all cookies for pinpics.com and pintalk.com and see if that helps. Nothing has changed cookie-wise, but cookies were never very reliable to begin with. I hope they use something else when they recode it.

Was the company SOLD when the partnership was announced? Or was the partnership formed; and then the decision to sell 2 months later?
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I confess I don't understand this question. Pin Pics was never a company, even though perhaps it should have been. Anthony and Samantha approached us with their great ideas, and a change in ownership was warranted based on the cost it would take them to implement them.

Question, where can people donate?
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The donation buttons were removed when the Medinas started paying for the hosting. Those donation buttons were tied to our PayPal account and it wasn't appropriate to keep them there once we were no longer paying. The Medinas may choose to add donation buttons of their own later, I don't know.

I'll be back in a little bit for more questions.
 
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Wow, so what do you have to do to get banned. I know tiggernut personally and she has been one of the nicest kindest and most knowledgeable people in pin trading
 

I can't think of any reason not to continue adding to the site, and I don't believe that Anthony or Samantha have announced anything otherwise. I'm not privy to the low-level architectural details of the changes being made to the site, but I'd be very surprised if data was lost as a result. Even if it was, there are backups.

Folks should feel comfortable continuing to use the site as you always have.
 
bretu said:
Wow, so what do you have to do to get banned. I know tiggernut personally and she has been one of the nicest kindest and most knowledgeable people in pin trading
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That's one thing I cannot answer, sorry. It's been our policy for a long time to only discuss account issues with the owner of the account.

EDIT: I will say this. It wasn't Diana's account that was banned. I slightly altered the wording in my previous post to avoid confusion.
 
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Thank you for all your answers Figgy...

However -wouldn't it be more fair to say LANSAM owns Pinpics, not the Medinas? I understand that the Medinas were part of LANSAM when LANSAM bought Pinpics...but people come and go in a corporation; and they can sell their interest in the corporation. Look at what happened with Roy Disney & Mike Eisner.

I would like to know who is/are the corporation LANSAM?

And Figgy, are you willing to reveal what power you maintained in Pinpics? I mean theorectically -I know you talked about sort of a right of first refusal return of the site. But, couldn't that be undermined by a sale of LANSAM instead?
 
TiggerNut said:
Thank you for all your answers Figgy...
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This is Britt, not Figgy. I'm not fully under her control yet, but she's working on it.

However -wouldn't it be more fair to say LANSAM owns Pinpics, not the Medinas?
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That's fair, and the Medinas have certainly advertised themselves this way. Bear in mind, however, that operating under the protections of a corporation is widely regarded as the safest way to go.

I would like to know who is/are the corporation LANSAM?
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Okay, Lansam is the company that is investing in Pin Pics' future. They've already explained who they are, what their goals are, and how they expect to accomplish them. They've provided us a set of upbeat promises for improving the site and helping pin traders.

I can understand your desire to drill down to personal identities, but we haven't even given them a chance. Some of their posts are met with outright hostility despite their doing nothing whatsoever to deserve such a reaction.

I'll answer your question with another question: are you willing to let them introduce themselves through the positive changes they make to the hobby of online pin trading? Or are we burning them at the stake before an accusation, let alone a trial? You seem concerned about their reputation, but they haven't had a chance to set one yet.

And Figgy, are you willing to reveal what power you maintained in Pinpics? I mean theorectically -I know you talked about sort of a right of first refusal return of the site. But, couldn't that be undermined by a sale of LANSAM instead?
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What a depressing question. I'll answer it by saying we were very specific about our protections in this arrangement, and they were reviewed by our own lawyer.

Now, can I please be excited to see what changes are coming this Spring? Isn't that what this should all be about?
 
Hi Britt! I love pinpics! It was a life saver when I first got into this hobby and is still very relevant to me today. I thank you so much for such a wonderful site.

And I must agree with you. We need to give this a chance. Let's all just wait and see what happens. If there are any questions or concerns about changes that have actually happened or been announced, then we can share our concerns at that time.

I am also really excited to see what is to come!
 
holy moly.....well that was a thread full. I thank figgy and britt for pinpics and can only imagine the work it took to create and maintain that site and to all the folks who assisted. I have been having a wee bit of problems with accessing my collection (search part) so i will clear my cookies as suggested, but I am excited to see what is in the future. I AM NOT SCARED:anxious: and dont understand what all the fuss is about, and thanks to the new folks who are taking this crazy *** hobby on! passions run deep with pins i guess.:naughty: Any help/donations let me know......and let us remember patience is a vertue...good day and happy trading!
 
karkura said:
And I must agree with you. We need to give this a chance. Let's all just wait and see what happens. If there are any questions or concerns about changes that have actually happened or been announced, then we can share our concerns at that time.
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I too hope that something great is coming. However, there are things that have been happening in the community that create/cause red flags. And, sometimes it is better to quash something early before it becomes a fact. I believe in this situation - the abuses that I fear, must be quashed before any lay pin trader experiences them on the site directly. Waiting for a change AND then complaining -may be TOO LATE.

Just like a new law being made. All the time there are bad pieces of legislation that are drafted and get stopped in the creation phase -as once it becoes a law, it is much harder to undue or fix.

I do appreciate the efforts put in by Figgy & Britt for addressing the issue -here and offline.

Diana
 
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Here I am, reading along intently, focus and even squinting a bit - then I read this:
yenne said:
This is Britt, not Figgy. I'm not fully under her control yet, but she's working on it.
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and laughed out loud!

I really appreciate the banter and information so we can all stay in the know. We welcome the new crew with open pin books, er, arms.
 

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