PODM and PODH Authenticity Question
Lisa Lopez
Pinpics ID lisarallen2
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One of the two Genie PoDH have been faked as well. I'll double check and see which one it is.
I've actually seen a bunch of PODH pins (can't remember which ones) on eBay out of China in the past, but they all seemed to be missing the dome and the item from the attraction. In addition, I believe they had no card.
I believe it's this one, though it looks like the scrapper items have been taken off of the bay. Just be sure it comes in card and you see actual pictures of the pin.Definitely like to know that one since one of my sons collects Aladdin and that would be one I’d be tempted to get one
It looks like the bubble missing is from the Genie faked PODH?I believe it's this one, though it looks like the scrapper items have been taken off of the bay. Just be sure it comes in card and you see actual pictures of the pin.
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It looks like the bubble missing is from the Genie faked PODH?
Seems like any PODH that does not have a bubble is either a fake or damaged. Both being undesirable... avoid no bubble. Is this an appropriate conclusion. If so, I am going to add this as another of my trading 'rules'.
Let me just slow you down for just a few parsecs there. While I would say this probably is true of the later PoDH releases, I'm almost positive that it does not apply to all of the earliest ones. It has been a long time since I pulled out mine, but I'm almost 100% positive that Tower of Terror, at the very least, does not have a bubble.I was thinking the same thing when I saw the photo, but it’s from Pinpics and should be the legit version (right?) so I thought maybe I just couldn’t see it. Either way, no bubble with the piece of history inside means no good!
Let me just slow you down for just a few parsecs there. While I would say this probably is true of the later PoDH releases, I'm almost positive that it does not apply to all of the earliest ones. It has been a long time since I pulled out mine, but I'm almost 100% positive that Tower of Terror, at the very least, does not have a bubble.
In all fairness, I will admit that I traded for mine, not on card. I have no reason to doubt the authenticity of it as I got it shortly after release and nobody was questioning these pins or even considering counterfeiting them way back then. If you would like, I can check my others and let you know which do/do not have bubbles (I believe I have cards for the rest that I own).
I should have been more clear in my explanation. While not all of the PoDH pins have a bubble, all of them do contain the fragment of the Disney history. After all, that is the purpose of the series. Those that don't have the bubble do have it under a flat epoxy (or epoxy-like material). I think it would be likely and fair to assume that those pins that do not contain the fragment of Disney history are either damaged or (shall we say?) unauthorized ... and in either case, probably best avoided.So I did a bit of research through Pinpics and it appears there are a few without bubbles, but not many. All pins should have a piece of Disney history included (hence the series name) so if that’s not present, I’d presume that pin to be damaged or fake. The pins that don’t have bubbles have the piece of history under plastic that isn’t bubblelike or it’s under epoxy (if the Pinpics description is correct). I think the Genie example above from Pinpics is damaged or faked because there’s a spot for a bubble, but there’s either no bubble or nothing in it (but the bubble appears to be missing to me). I found pictures of the same pin on the card on another site and the card indicates a piece of the Hyperion’s carpet is included (and the carpet is dark, not white, so something should be visible). So, you just have to look up which pins should have a bubble.
Ultimately, it seems that the piece of Disney history pins haven’t been known to be counterfeited with the bubble, which was part of what I really wanted to know. So, if I buy one with a bubble, hopefully it’s likely to be authentic. I don’t think I’ll be looking to collect the ones without the bubble, so at least I think I’m good. I didn’t realize how many there are!
You're correct. Many of the early ones (most? All?) did not have bubbles (but always had the item, as you/others stated later). The item was always something very flat and just adhered to the pin with epoxy or similar. So if it's ToT, or the ones I listed, or possibly others from the early days, it should not have a bubble.Let me just slow you down for just a few parsecs there. While I would say this probably is true of the later PoDH releases, I'm almost positive that it does not apply to all of the earliest ones. It has been a long time since I pulled out mine, but I'm almost 100% positive that Tower of Terror, at the very least, does not have a bubble.
In all fairness, I will admit that I traded for mine, not on card. I have no reason to doubt the authenticity of it as I got it shortly after release and nobody was questioning these pins or even considering counterfeiting them way back then. If you would like, I can check my others and let you know which do/do not have bubbles (I believe I have cards for the rest that I own).
The picture on Pin Pics is the picture that was officially released by Disney for the pin. In the high res version of it, you can clearly see a bubble, but it appears to have nothing in it or the object is white. Sometimes, it is not uncommon for Disney to photograph the prototype for the web and then never update it later. I have seen this happen many times over the years.I think the Genie example above from Pinpics is damaged or faked because there’s a spot for a bubble, but there’s either no bubble or nothing in it (but the bubble appears to be missing to me). I found pictures of the same pin on the card on another site and the card indicates a piece of the Hyperion’s carpet is included (and the carpet is dark, not white, so something should be visible).
This, or use concept art and never switch it out when the pin is finally produced. I can't tell you how many times I have seen this happen (or not happen) over the years.The picture on Pin Pics is the picture that was officially released by Disney for the pin. In the high res version of it, you can clearly see a bubble, but it appears to have nothing in it or the object is white. Sometimes, it is not uncommon for Disney to photograph the prototype for the web and then never update it later. I have seen this happen many times over the years.
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