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2018 Pin Releases

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2018 Pin Releases
Agree with everyone’s comments, especially there being folks who basically don’t consider it a “real”collection unless you own certain pins and that theses sort of challenges have always been around, just some times worse than others. My advice is to ignore all that nonsense and just collect what you like. And if something becomes too expensive, especially for the wrong reason, skip it. There are well over 100,000 pins out there and more coming all the time so don’t sweat it. Plenty for your awesome collection. And if something gets run up for the wrong reasons, it will likely come down some day anyway. In the meantime, if you like and enjoy the pins in your collection, you have the most awesome collection possible. At least that’s my corny take on the whole thing. :D
 
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Welp I was going to see if I could work out some trades for some windows and maybe buy the ones that I haven't gotten yet online. But seeing those prices... YIKES! I mentally valued them the same as the Essence of Evil that came out here, but apparently some disagree. And there is no way I'm spending $60 bucks minimum on one pin.

I can't stand how people drive up the prices of small bits of metal that much for no reason other than that they're popular. Like, yes, you want to profit, but the pins are, what, twenty bucks to begin with? I kind of went off about this in the Pin You'll Never Get thread about the Rapunzel Reveal/Conceal I found for $8,000 but like... stop. You're a real collector if you collect. That's it. Don't be a jerk.

Signed, a villains collector with zero (0) villains WDI profiles.
 
For the record it's not the just the windows of evil that have gone nuts. I wondering why the Cheshire Cat Latte pin is so high ? I bought one extra as a trader because I know so many Cheshire collectors, but it's all but gone from a certain auction site, and the ones hanging around are being listed for 50-60 bucks!
 
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For the record it's not the just the windows of evil that have gone nuts. I wondering why the Cheshire Cat Latte pin is so high ? I bought one extra as a trader because I know so many Cheshire collectors, but it's all but gone from a certain auction site, and the ones hanging around are being listed for 50-60 bucks!
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The Mickey Donut is also super surprising in what people are asking. Maybe park pins are just getting more popular...

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hopemax said:
Ok, I pride myself in knowing a lot about pins, but somehow "Hong Kong game pins" have slipped my radar. Does it work like Japan? Where they are prizes for losing the carnival style games? How much does each game cost?

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Opposite of Japan, you actually have to win to get the game pins. As my friend told me, you pay for the game card which gives you the chaser(s) pin(you can only buy two of the chasers) with a certain amount of plays and then you play the games for the other pins, you can play and win as many pins as you want outside the chaser pins. I don't think these have a chaser in this set.

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The Mickey Donut is also super surprising in what people are asking. Maybe park pins are just getting more popular...

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Us locals would hope park pins get more popular for trading purposes, but you know how that goes....wait 6 months or a year and see how popular, usually I get "I've got that already, any latest greatest, WDI, or some DSSH/DSF?"
At the 1 month mark of release you'll find the returns at the park of low demand pins even though they sold out, after that flippers have to hope it gets Hot again or they're stuck. : p
Lesson is: everyone goes broke if they only buy to speculate or flaunt for bragging rights.
Dssh has it's turnaround every 3 yrs it seems, cause they find out everyone only wants 1 or 2 out of the 5 or 6 pins. By the time they've learned, they're broke and have spent the money investing on 1 pin hoping to flip for more. $$.
A collector, hopefully sees it differently and values the quality pins over just another hyped pin. As others have mentioned, this is a patience hobby. If you can't get it at cost, then time will tell whether it's a keeper to get and at the right price.
Windows at an auction for 70 is sad for all of us. Locals know what that means... ..more competition in pickups and eventually a true limit of 2 per day which works for some but not for Helping others. Usually the ones helping are singles and don't have the # of heads to get extra pins. So goes the wonderful world of Disney pins......just have to enjoy them, even if it's a picture. :stitch:
 
I think the visibility to the insane prices many of the recent WDI pins are fetching combined with the fact the LE pins are just more appealing to many collectors is what's driving up the park LEs. Plus I have to say the design and finishing work on the newer pins is really good compared to just a few years ago, the Windows series is way better than I expected once I had them in my hand and of course the WDI profiles are gorgeous too. Combine better aesthetics with popular themes like villains and voila, here we are.

I've basically given up on/passed on getting any of the WDI heroines series, I have most of the villains which I started getting for $30-$40 each a little over a year ago, flash forward to Si and Am at the end of the series and well I don't want to say what I paid for that one but it was cheap compared to what Ariel and the others are selling for now, so that change took less than a year to happen somehow.

Those of you who have been collecting for a while, I've noticed in my own collection there are a lot of pins from 2002/2003 to about 2007/2008 and then there seems to be a lull in quality and quantity of pins that I would want to add to my collection until the last couple of years releases, call it 2016 to present day. Was there maybe a slump in the hobby due to a lack of appealing pins until Disney dialed it up again recently? Maybe that's what's driving the recent spike in perceived value and new collectors? Just a thought.
 
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Welp I was going to see if I could work out some trades for some windows and maybe buy the ones that I haven't gotten yet online. But seeing those prices... YIKES! I mentally valued them the same as the Essence of Evil that came out here, but apparently some disagree. And there is no way I'm spending $60 bucks minimum on one pin.

I can't stand how people drive up the prices of small bits of metal that much for no reason other than that they're popular. Like, yes, you want to profit, but the pins are, what, twenty bucks to begin with? I kind of went off about this in the Pin You'll Never Get thread about the Rapunzel Reveal/Conceal I found for $8,000 but like... stop. You're a real collector if you collect. That's it. Don't be a jerk.

Signed, a villains collector with zero (0) villains WDI profiles.
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Hopefully the prices will come down once the initial hype settles. Maybe some people will be willing to trade WDW pins for them. Good luck in your search. It's a long game.
 
I can’t believe people are asking and getting that much money for an LE 1500 pin. Those should not be hard to get. As soon as eBay came on the scene, pin trading changed. Instead of trading to get pins, people started to buy pins, and were willing to pay over cost because of convenience. We created a monster and now we have to learn to live with it. Those pins now will even be hard to trade for because they are “$70” pins and my lowly DSSH Bambi LE 300(?) never sold for that, therefore not an even trade.
 
curiousdinah said:
For the record it's not the just the windows of evil that have gone nuts. I wondering why the Cheshire Cat Latte pin is so high ? I bought one extra as a trader because I know so many Cheshire collectors, but it's all but gone from a certain auction site, and the ones hanging around are being listed for 50-60 bucks!
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The Mickey Donut is also super surprising in what people are asking. Maybe park pins are just getting more popular...

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I'm not going to comment on what people pay for pins, because I'm saving it all for a PhD in human psychology. :P

But with regard to Cheshire latte and Mickey donut (a nice snack, I must say) ... those were first - in - series pins. And I think some folks bypass those because "I'm only going to collect the characters I want" or what have you. And then a few releases in, the series just strikes a chord and people decide to retroactively collect the whole thing -- but now they have to backtrack and find the (probably sold out by that point) original.

That's just my speculation about these 2 particular pins. Also, because we are so cool and knowledgeable, I think we underestimate how many people DON'T know about new releases, and then those people see one of the pins somewhere and ask about it and then scramble to find others.

All of which brings about panic. See opening comment re: human nature. :D
 
chubs191 said:
I definitely don't need at $650 pin to think of myself as a "real" Ariel collector. That's how I feel most people see my collection, because I don't want any Gomes or the BT. My #3 that I traded for a while back would be risible in some pin groups, but I think it's the 3rd prettiest pin in existence.

I also see a lot of people that have come into pin trading the past 5 years or so that want to make up for lost time and buy whatever they can at whatever price. They're also the fastest to pull the "your pin is a fake" trigger. I never used to have that problem, but now I've had it happen to my sister on a WDI pin I bought for her at Destination D. I had to find the reciept for my sister while she was trying to placate the buyer. I just hope it doesn't get so bad that all the experienced pin traders up and leave. Their collections collecting dust in an attic.

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I've been in Disney trading for almost 6 years now. Lurking more than actually trading/collecting over the past few years but this has always happened. When I got into pin trading, Tangled was the hot pins. People would pay big bucks for Tangled but things didn't really get crazy until Frozen. Once Frozen came out, it seemed like all pin prices got jacked up. Things seemed to settle down for a bit after the Frozen craze died down but it seems like pin trading is really starting to become pin collecting. I see a lot of people willing to buy pins instead of trying to trade for them. Building good traders costs as much as building your collection. If you aren't near one of the parks, it doesn't make much sense to really get into trading unless you like it. In my experiences, collectors are different from traders. Collectors have two sets of people in them, 1) people who love whatever they are collecting and do it for fun and 2) People who know they can make a lot of money by building a collection and selling it.
 
Just a quick note that the Cheshire latte pin is now listed for $99.95. If this keeps up, I am going to hang onto mine and give that Rapunzel pin a run for its money. :)

Also, maybe that one will qualify me as a “real” alice collector.
 
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