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Artist proof question?

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Tinkerkeeks

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This may be a silly question but I am still relatively new to pins. If a pin is an Artist Proof does it always has the AP mark on the back? I would assume it does but please let me know if there are exceptions.

i recently purchased a couple of pins listed as artist proofs on ebay and they arrived with no markings indicating they were anything other than regular edition pins. So my question is, am i correct in assuming there is no way they are artist proofs?
 
All artist proof pins I've ever seen have the AP engraved on the back of the pin. I believe that this is the only way it can be identified but someone may prove me wrong ;)

Hope that this helps
 
I would like to know the answer to this, too! :) I got a LE Princess and the Frog pin from Scoop during my vacation in Walt Disney World, and as he took it off his lanyard to trade it to me, he told me it was the AP version but it wasn't marked on the back... does anyone have any more info regarding this? :)
 
The few APs that are in my collection do have the "AP" stamp on the back. I have heard of other artist proofs without the back stamp on the back, but have a variation or two when compared to the final version of the pin. If anyone has one of those, could someone verify this? I've never seen one and I've love some verification.
 
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I thought some pics might help.






it looks like the one in the middle has a PP symbol. What does PP mean again?

Any input is appreciated thanks :)
 
Hi,

PP = "Pre-production" which means it was produced before the normal run.

AP's can be produced in a limited number before the run , or as part of the normal run.

"PP" pins more than "AP" pins can be different to the actual pin released (there are a number of examples on Pinpics). "AP" pin's
are normally the same of as the released version , but can have small differences mainly paint color.

I have been presented (from Disney) with a number of "AP" pins which did not have the "AP" stamp on the back , but mostly
they come with the stamp.

Same early pins (often from Paris) where numbered 000/XXX , 000 = "AP" version. Frame sets often have "AP" written on the side
and not on the Pins.

Paul
 
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