lol, even the real pins come from China. But seriously, it's frustrating. I don't buy lots at all on eBay unless the seller states "these are the exact pins you will be getting" and the number is not a multiple of 25 (ie... you are bidding on these 17 pins from my personal collection). I've done that 2 or 3 times and all the pins have been authentic. I've also bought from the China sellers when I first started out, and every single pin was counterfeit (and AWFUL quality). Big surprise. I've reported several of these people to eBay, as I also sell some pins, and these thieves are depreciating the value for those few honest sellers... but they don't do a thing. Months later, the seller is still selling the exact same auctions "300 pin lot, you'll get 50 different pins, 6 of each one!" How nice that he was able to trade for exactly 6 of 50 different pins. CONvenient.