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That is the key reason why I think this set won't come close to the GSF set in terms of selling per pin: the hype (and cause, let's be honest, they're not as nice). The Frozen GSF set has the same story as the WiR and Tangled DSF set; they did well, but blossomed after the DVD came out. Why did they do SO well after the DVD came out? Simple, all the pins were already in collectors hands so there were only 100 or so on the market and people had to fight for them after they realized what they were missing out on (the dolls also shot up).
Look at every LE WiR pin that has come out ever since the DSF set, not one has ever done as well as any pin in the original set (or the DS.com pins) which all came out before WiR became popular. The reason being, after it became popular, it was too late to get them back and those who had them weren't letting them go. Heck, every LE Tangled pin has never done as well as those that came out before Tangled got popular (marquee, R/C, Designer, Compcat all came out before Tangled was big and no Tangled pin ever hit as high as those 4 did).
That combined with what always kills pin values: hype. Hype has hurt nearly every big GSF release since Frozen and every big PTD after it comes out. They always start higher than they end up. Look at all the big recent PTDs and the Mali pins, every pin sold for really high when it first came on the market and now sells for less. Now that a lot of people are greedier, they are charging more than they can get and everyone is rushing to get rid of their stuff ASAP in fear of not making as much as the next guy. It's great for buyers, but terrible when a pin first comes out.
I'm not saying that it's guaranteed that these won't do as well, but with history, the greedy sellers, and the big killer "hype" (which this set already has had so much of, people are offering $700 on Fb without even seeing the pins in real life, they just want them to have them at all costs, that mindset is the definition of hype) are making this set look like every single set that has ever come out after a movie became the "big" thing, it will be big, but it won't be AS big as what people are hoping for (which I bet people are gonna expect about $300-400 a pin...not gonna happen).
No the original Reveal Conceal princess set is pretty rare. It's the ones that look like crests from a few years ago.
Both parks were suppossed to get them but I guess the shipment or somthing never arrived in WDW and then with Tangled being new and the pins being really pretty they all got swooped up. Lots of them went to the public, others went to pin traders but the thing is is that the Rapunzel pin was so rare in the set because it was like a super chaser. It could be in any of the "hidden spots" while the rest were mostly the other half od the princesses/girls.
A lot of people think there's only about 14 - 20 Rapunzel in circulation, and most that people have are damaged or have production errors and flaws. It's the lowest edition Tangled pin so far (if you're not counting aps/pps/).
That combined with what always kills pin values: hype. Hype has hurt nearly every big GSF release since Frozen and every big PTD after it comes out. They always start higher than they end up. Look at all the big recent PTDs and the Mali pins, every pin sold for really high when it first came on the market and now sells for less. Now that a lot of people are greedier, they are charging more than they can get and everyone is rushing to get rid of their stuff ASAP in fear of not making as much as the next guy. It's great for buyers, but terrible when a pin first comes out.
Hi Sweetie, I wasn't being serious when I stated 2k. I was just being unbelievably silly. As it's unbelievable that WDI has done this so soon. I mean we all know it's coming Frozen PTDs and a Frozen BT. And let's not forget Paris. I'm glad I did collect the Tangled pins that I have. I'm going to need them as traders. Nice chatting with everyone. HugsThis set will most definitely NOT hit $2k. I mean, yes they'll be expensive and they have a low LE size, but I doubt even 1 of them will hit Elsa Stained Glass level. She may be LE400, but the reason why people really want Elsa Stained Glass is because, as a pin, it's gorgeous. I've yet to hear one person express that these pins are absolutely stunning. The artwork is cute and if you like Marshmellow or trolls, it's the first pin, but for Olaf, Anna, Kristoff, and Elsa (the most expensive pins), I haven't heard anything rave about them besides "I need them to stay a completionist!"
Likewise, while the trolls and Marshmellow are having their first pin, they won't go as high as Anna or Elsa because in the end, not nearly as many people want them as they do Anna or Elsa. I could see this set hitting a little under $1000 tops when it first comes out, but it will drop after the hype falls since, as pins, they're just okay. The thing to remember is, being LE200, there won't be many left after the hype (unless people charge RIDICULOUS amounts nobody can afford).
I liked WiR, but I don't think you can compare that movie to Frozen. Heck, even comparing Tangled to Frozen would be unfair to Rapunzel and Flynn! :lol: Most of Frozen merchandise has sold out for a reason. Whenever I go to my local DS (even the flagship store in NYC), there is literally a small shelf of Frozen stuff which consists of clothes for small children, and some Hans dolls. There are plenty of Tangled merchandise, and I didn't see WiR there, but Frozen sells. And they sell well.
Anyhoo, my point is is that this set will be more successful than WiR. It's the reseller fault for asking for so much than what WiR are willingly to shell out. Just my $0.02
While Frozen is far more popular in terms of general merchandise, pins are different and more specific since little kids and parents don't go after the general merchandise. It's a totally different marketFrozen has yet to beat Tangled in the pin world since no pin has sold even close to as much as the higher end Tangled pins and yet even Tangled went through that "decrease after the hype." If Tangled went through that, Frozen definitely will. WiR did as well and while no, WiR wasn't as popular as Tangled or Frozen; Stitch, Jessica, Tink, all popular pins at one point went through the same cycle. It's just proof that all pins that have ever been popular "decrease with hype."
Actually the Tangled pins didn't start getting bonkers expensive until like a year after the movie was out. Same with WiR.
The Frozen pin prices will probably continue to climb and then will stay stagnant after about a year. Until the next big thing comes out! I think it is safe to say we can project Frozen pins to become more expensive than Tangled ones ever have been. Unless all the pin collectors learned their lesson from Tangled and just say "no way" to the crazy prices.
And I am in a group of parents who hunt for Frozen merchandise for their kids (on Facebook). You would be SHOCKED at how many of them are getting into pins solely because of Frozen. I have had these parents PMing me about how to get the WDI set (they know I have a collection). Someone recently bought her daughter the DSF pin of Anna and Elsa. It is kind of crazy that even people that aren't pin collectors are diving in because of the movie's popularity!!
Would anyone be able to tell me what the pre-order date is for these? Every flyer that I've found online is cut off before the fine print. Thanks in advance!
Tomorrow is the pre-order date for CM to order online
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