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New release versus Retired and Older Pins

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New release versus Retired and Older Pins
Some of my favorites are the DA pins I have been able to find & add to my collection, just don't see them for trade/sale as much as newer pins. I'd love to find more older pins!
 
Ninpin said:
Getting pins at cost from a DLR release thanks to someone nice on DPF is a problem for you? Noted.
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Presale is not pick-up at cost. Presale is some shark trying to gauge interest, more often than not trying to gauge how much to mark up. And if we're talking DSF pins just creates the mad chaos that it is there now. So many people pre-order on a chance, the lottery happens and either their buyer misses out or they find out the pins are worth more and 1. use your money to buy them and 2. sell them to someone else for more than you paid 3. refund your money with a sob story they missed out. Presales tell the masses there is money to be made and they come. When a release isn't hyped up there is tons of money to be had, the releases are not huge to-do's. Even recently we had releases where everyone got pins. But the presellers come in force for the better pins. If you are referring to the few people that do pick-ups at the parks after the mad rush, meh, not part of the problem...but those people are rare and dwindling.
 
I'm interested in some of the older stuff! My metric is not how old or new a pin is, just whether it fits one of my collections and whether I like the look of it. A lot of the prettiest ones are older ones that I've only ever seen on pinpics, never even seen in person.
 
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Presale is not pick-up at cost. Presale is some shark trying to gauge interest, more often than not trying to gauge how much to mark up. And if we're talking DSF pins just creates the mad chaos that it is there now. So many people pre-order on a chance, the lottery happens and either their buyer misses out or they find out the pins are worth more and 1. use your money to buy them and 2. sell them to someone else for more than you paid 3. refund your money with a sob story they missed out. Presales tell the masses there is money to be made and they come. When a release isn't hyped up there is tons of money to be had, the releases are not huge to-do's. Even recently we had releases where everyone got pins. But the presellers come in force for the better pins. If you are referring to the few people that do pick-ups at the parks after the mad rush, meh, not part of the problem...but those people are rare and dwindling.
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Technically it's still a pre-sale at cost if you have to pay and sign up for it before the release. I do understand what you are referring to, and I figured that is what you meant all along (DSF and jacked up prices), but generalizations aren't good, and I just don't like being pointed at and accused of things publicly, or being called part of a "problem", when someone knows nothing about me. I don't appreciate it.

I actually swore off DSF pre-sales as I find them pretty ridiculous. In most cases you can find the pins at a later date for much less anyway. At least for the stuff I've been wanting. (Not a Frozen or Tangled fan.)

I think what you can get at cost from the amazingly kind people who take the trips to the parks for you is wonderful. If I lived near any parks myself I would pay it forward and do the same for others, as I care about this hobby deeply.
 
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I meant DSF. Park pins aren't even relevant anymore until Disney merchandise pulls their heads out of their butts and makes better pins for the parks. The PODM's or Frozen PTN's were the last craze releases. Nothing even moved my interest needle this year.
 
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I'm actually a big fan of the Cast Lanyard series they had wayyyy back when. It's what really got me into pin trading. But hearing about the scrappers (in both CL's and HM's) that would arise has sadly made me a bit hesitant about collecting them now. (I'm not the best at identifying scrappers.)
 
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I'm interested in some of the older stuff! My metric is not how old or new a pin is, just whether it fits one of my collections and whether I like the look of it. A lot of the prettiest ones are older ones that I've only ever seen on pinpics, never even seen in person.
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I completely agree! I don't care about the age of the pin I care about the design, age is only going to affect the cost for me to get the pin. I tend to try to grab up new pins because once the market becomes inflated they drop in price a little. The older pins are so much harder to get and it's easy to get disinherited about finding the at a price I can afford.
 
Rmmpins said:
Hi,
I was wondering if people are still interested in purchasing older and retired pins. It seems like a lot of posts refer to new releases as being prized.
I have lots of pins that are about 10 years old that I would like to sell eventually.
Thanks, Rose Mary
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Many of my wants are "older" pins. It can make trading difficult at times when your wants & trades are not the newest/hottest thing out there. I do find myself purchasing occasionally, but still prefer trading. Many of the other members have touched on my feelings regarding the pins, the change in dynamic of collectors (more people purchase to collect or sell vs. trade, compared to years past, so I find it more difficult to say"traders"), and what has become popular in the hobby. Ultimately, I can only suggest to do what seems right to you and what will bring you the most happiness from the hobby.

It can't hurt to put the pins up when you are ready to part with them. worst case scenario, they don't sell. Otherwise, collect what you love, and have fun doing it! :)
 
I was definitely too young to afford any DA/DS pins back in the days, and it's such a shame, if it were up to me I would have many more old pins...
I think that they are just better designed and produced, if you watch very closely a old DALE100 you can spot an incredible number of details, especially on the jumbos...
IMHO right now they somehow run out of ideas, we have all the DSSH madness going on along with the frozen one, but I really don't like any of them. Apart from the Lotso pins, I don't think I recently bought a pin that was first sold after 2010 let's say.
And another thing I really dislike about current trends is that the trading part is slowly dying off...of course in part it's understandable (more pins means that it's more complicated to match pins for a trade) but I feel like sometimes it would be better to simply trade than to try selling a pin for 100$ to buy one for 110$, when maybe a trade could be arranged...
 
I think another reason the newer folks don't get into the older pins as quickly is they only want to use social media to trade. Facebook, Instagram is where most of them go. The older traders don't really do social media. They did PinPics, the parks, events. But they wouldn't bring the really good stuff to the park usually, just to the events.
 
When I'm looking to buy pin lots for trading or just trading in the parks I gravitate towards the old pins because, in my mind, they are more likely to be legitimate as they from the era before pin scrappers became so prevalent.
 
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