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First off I am NOT trying to start drama AT ALL!!!!

So I posted about this earlier and I think we are still at a road block.


I traded for a set of Haunted Mansion Vinyls last Friday. It was actually an auction but you get the idea.

The pins arrived today and I immediately opened the chaser pin bag. It checked out perfect.

The rest of the pins did NOT. There are a bunch of concerns . 1 of them is VERY light and has some borders.

2 of them have some weird dipping going on with the paint on the BACK of the pins.


There is 1 that appears to be alright but still has a black dot on the front of the one.

I am not saying they are fake or scrappers but I just do not feel comfortable completing the deal when I am sending 2 LE pins. 1 is a LE250 and 1 is a LE1000.

I PM this person and they appear to be at the exact opposite point I am at.

They are claiming they bought it in the park/online

They have perfect feedback on pinpics and on here


So maybe I am paranoid? maybe I will be kicked out of this website? Maybe whatever! but I really not liking this deal anymore. I am a nice guy and this person is also very nice.

WE are just stuck right now. I do not know anyone on here personally so I am asking for opinions. NOT STARTING FIGHTS OR DRAMA. Simple opinions. So here is the summary


I put up a auction.

Only 2 bids and this persons was better.

Picked the Haunted Mansion Vinyls

The pins arrived today right before I was shipping out my pins

Checked over all the pins INCLUDING OPENING the chaser

Did not like the way they looked or felt. Asked the person in the trade to let me send his pins back plus pay his shipping cost

Person is not liking that idea at all


This is where we can no come to a solution. I am not standing down and neither is he AT THIS MOMENT AT LEAST


What do you all think ? I am fully prepared to listen to any and all opinions​
 
I wasn't aware that the haunted mansion Vynilmations were scrapped, I know a bunch of them are but never heard these were... I hope you guys work something out...
 
Any flaws in a pin shoud be disclosed up front in any trade, auction or not. In an auction, both the bidders and the auctioneer should be up front and let people know if there are noticible condition issues like paint dips, significant scratches, broken posts, color errors, etc.

I would say that because the flaws were not disclosed that you should be able to trade back BUT you should be required to repost your pins for auction. Alternatively, you and the other party could work out a different trade but thar sounds unlikely.
 
It sounds to me like you're having issues with manufacturer defects that most people wouldn't ever even notice.
 
I have a feeling that the crux of this issue is what happens if you buy something from Disney, don't open it and assume it is okay, what happens if Disney's own quality control lets you down? I know people have been concerned about pins bought at Disney with apparent poor quality controls being branded as scrappers, in the past. I agree flaws should be disclosed, but I doubt people check too carefully when they buy something directly from Disney and put it directly into their trade bag.

The mystery bag was apparently still sealed. Did it have the rest of its packaging and did it appear it had been opened? Maybe, you can find other people that bought this set directly from Disney and see if there are any common flaws.

And I'm going to throw this out here. IMO, this is a situation that the moderators are probably going to have to set some good guidelines, because what I would hate to see happen is for people to be disappointed in the bids they get in an auction and then claim scrapper to not have to complete the deal. Obviously, someone shouldn't have to take scrapper if it really is a scrapper. But if it's just poor quality control by Disney for this set of pins...

Actually, there's an idea. Could the pins in question be sent to someone near one of the parks with access to real pins and then compared and an assessment made? It would require a bit of extra postage.
 
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Believe me, I've got pins like you've described directly from Disney. It's just bad quality control IMHO.

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My two cents. Once you open a sealed chaser you bought it so to speak, just like at the parks. The time to complain would have been before you opened it.
The bigger question is why so many people on this site are losing potential friends over a couple of bucks? Sometimes it's ok to let the other trader come out slightly on top. I had a wise old trader who I am still friends with 10 years later tell me once "I'll defer to you this time for future consideration".
 
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