The Beloved Tale craze...

[SoraPandora]

The baby wasn't in the damn scene. Why does anyone care. He wasn't even in most of the movie!!




The beloved tales are a glimpse at what can or does happen in the story. It's as memory or it's a representation of the movie as a whole. As much as I dislike the Cinderella BT, I understand it. The slipper is almost as important as Cinderella herself.

I'm soooo sorry Vanelopee isn't in the Wreck-it bt but you know what? She DOESN'T NEED TO BE. That moment in the movie is showing Ralph's true nature, sharing with other forgotten or outcasted characters. It's perfect because its a small moment in that story.



You don't have to like everyone, sure, but they are small works of art, representing a larger work of art. They don't include all your favorite characters, they don't have to.

It's a part of a beloved tale, not a "OMFG FIT EVERYTHING IN THERE" pin.

Agreed.

I think The Incredibles is a very nice BT, and I agree with what you said about Cinderella, too. My main qualm with the Cindy BT is not the slipper, but the color scheme. The slipper would have stood out more against a different color.

My least two favorite BT is Peter, followed by Alice - I just don't think those scenes capture the feel of the movie very well.

I can't even recall a scene in Peter Pan where he is anywhere near Tinker Bell in a lantern. Hook is the one who had the lantern, and she escaped by herself. It's like they made up a whole new scene for the BT, and it's not even pretty.


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[nsingleton]

I agree with many of the opinions above! I am glad I do not collect pin series like BT's and PTD's, rather my collections are character/movie based!!! :bigthumb: That way, when these series boom like this, I usually only have to worry about a limited # of pins from the series for my own collection, saving a little $$$! :lol:

They are a stunning series however...eventually I will have the SB one hopefully, but thankfully, that is the only BT pin that really fits into any of my collections currently!

 

[this_and_that]

Agreed.

...and I agree with what you said about Cinderella, too. My main qualm with the Cindy BT is not the slipper, but the color scheme. The slipper would have stood out more against a different color...

The background was supposed to be green.

But the factory messed up and DSF decided just release what they were sent rather than have the factory re-do the entire ediion.

Current staff at DSF back then, no longer at DSSH, told me this back then.

 

[this_and_that]

The baby wasn't in the damn scene. Why does anyone care. He wasn't even in most of the movie!!


The beloved tales are a glimpse at what can or does happen in the story. It's as memory or it's a representation of the movie as a whole. As much as I dislike the Cinderella BT, I understand it. The slipper is almost as important as Cinderella herself.

I'm soooo sorry Vanelopee isn't in the Wreck-it bt but you know what? She DOESN'T NEED TO BE. That moment in the movie is showing Ralph's true nature, sharing with other forgotten or outcasted characters. It's perfect because its a small moment in that story.


You don't have to like everyone, sure, but they are small works of art, representing a larger work of art. They don't include all your favorite characters, they don't have to.

It's a part of a beloved tale, not a "OMFG FIT EVERYTHING IN THERE" pin.

Beautifully said. Exactly.

 

[pinbum]

Stay calm and BT on!

 

[froggerway]

The baby wasn't in the damn scene. Why does anyone care. He wasn't even in most of the movie!!




The beloved tales are a glimpse at what can or does happen in the story. It's as memory or it's a representation of the movie as a whole. As much as I dislike the Cinderella BT, I understand it. The slipper is almost as important as Cinderella herself.

I'm soooo sorry Vanelopee isn't in the Wreck-it bt but you know what? She DOESN'T NEED TO BE. That moment in the movie is showing Ralph's true nature, sharing with other forgotten or outcasted characters. It's perfect because its a small moment in that story.



You don't have to like everyone, sure, but they are small works of art, representing a larger work of art. They don't include all your favorite characters, they don't have to.

It's a part of a beloved tale, not a "OMFG FIT EVERYTHING IN THERE" pin.

This made me giggle a lot because I think you might be missing the underlying point. While every movie has a main character, or set of, that doesn't automatically mean that is why everyone loves that specific movie, or that the main character is who or what made a connection to the viewer.
Lady in the Tramp --while a cute film-- would mean nothing to me if it didn't have Si &Am.
Cinderella is the proverbial fairy tale every child knows, but without the added dimension of characters like Lucifer, Gus and Jaq the movie would be stale. Finding Nemo was beautiful! I grew up scuba diving and swimming with fish before I knew how to ride a bike. But what makes that movie, imo, isn't Nemo and Marlin together; it's Nemo with Gil, Deb&Flo, Peachy, Bloat, Jacques and Nigel. Or later, Marlin and Dory with Crush riding the EAC with Crush.

So, yes, when Disney releases a pin series that represent "small works of art, representing a larger work of art" I am disappointed and irked when those cute side characters are forgotten. Those are the characters I most likely related to while watching and those are the characters I want captured on pins. No, not every pin needs to showcase every character from its movie, but it'd be nice if Disney did have a uniformly looking, uniformly sized and uniformly editioned series showcasing entire casts. They didn't do it with their Beloved Tales.

 

[Romancing_Train]

This made me giggle a lot because I think you might be missing the underlying point. While every movie has a main character, or set of, that doesn't automatically mean that is why everyone loves that specific movie, or that the main character is who or what made a connection to the viewer.
Lady in the Tramp --while a cute film-- would mean nothing to me if it didn't have Si &Am.
Cinderella is the proverbial fairy tale every child knows, but without the added dimension of characters like Lucifer, Gus and Jaq the movie would be stale. Finding Nemo was beautiful! I grew up scuba diving and swimming with fish before I knew how to ride a bike. But what makes that movie, imo, isn't Nemo and Marlin together; it's Nemo with Gil, Deb&Flo, Peachy, Bloat, Jacques and Nigel. Or later, Marlin and Dory with Crush riding the EAC with Crush.

So, yes, when Disney releases a pin series that represent "small works of art, representing a larger work of art" I am disappointed and irked when those cute side characters are forgotten. Those are the characters I most likely related to while watching and those are the characters I want captured on pins. No, not every pin needs to showcase every character from its movie, but it'd be nice if Disney did have a uniformly looking, uniformly sized and uniformly editioned series showcasing entire casts. They didn't do it with their Beloved Tales.

I totally get what you're saying :3 I would love a cast set too, I think that would be amazing actually.

But I don't think that would fit in with the Beloved Tales as a whole. Because a cast set of pins wwouldn'tt portray the story in the slightest bit, it would just be characters together..

And that's actually something I have a problem with on a few of these and why I love the newer ones. At no time in the movie does that scene from the Lion King take place. It's the original BOOK COVER. Even if it's not an exact scene or something important, that is something that bothers me in a way. If they wanted a nala scene it could've been after the rescue, or bathing scene, or just simba and nala together. If they wanted a group picture. It irks me so much because I KNOW that's the most over used piece of lion king clip art on the planet and who ever "designed" that pin can go suck eggs.

I'm okay with some reused poses, hell i would much rather of had the same picture of Rapunzel leaning out the window with pascal and the flower pot if it was as nicely done as the snow white bt or the beauty and the beast bt!

 

[froggerway]

The Lion King BT pin was a little visually wonky, but I could live with it. Unlike The Tangled BT pin which was more than unfortunate, IMO. That scene in the movie was pivotal, where Rapunzel sees the lanterns in person for the first time. The pin, however...UGH! Disney didn't even come close!

I totally get what you're saying :3 I would love a cast set too, I think that would be amazing actually.

But I don't think that would fit in with the Beloved Tales as a whole. Because a cast set of pins wwouldn'tt portray the story in the slightest bit, it would just be characters together..

Ahh, but this series is titled Beloved Tales; tales of the characters we as the audience are enamoured with. This is not the pin series of actual "pieces of Disney movies". If life is a journey and not a destination then it is the characters we meet along the way that makeup our own "Beloved Tales" and not the stagnate background scenery.

 

[swim2sea]

I agree with everyone's comments, but unfortunately I'm one of those poor slobs who have collected BT from the beginning. But my collection might very well be over since prices have gone so high. I wish Disney would steady it out and go back to offering low LE quality pins online so prices would drop.

 

[a4matte]

The Lion King BT pin was a little visually wonky, but I could live with it. Unlike The Tangled BT pin which was more than unfortunate, IMO. That scene in the movie was pivotal, where Rapunzel sees the lanterns in person for the first time. The pin, however...UGH! Disney didn't even come close!

I think what throws that pin off the most for me is the background color.
Why is it such a bright blue?! I think a purple-ish color would have helped tie it back into the movie a lot.

For the entire series - it's neat, and it's nice to see they've stuck to the same general format for the set.
I couldn't imagine spending the money people want for them though.

 

[markheardjr]

haha it bothered us at first but there is no way you can keep that up...if an old movie is released then they all move....way too much effort haha.




We've collected all those series (granted not a PTD completists like you or got even close to being a marquee completists) but Beloved Tales are personally the nicer of all DSF staples just because they're more consistent than any other series. We loved marquees, but the fact that they can never agree on size (width and length) just makes it all look like a mess together. Same thing with PTDs. And although it's great that characters from all over are showcased in PTDs, their quality, LE size, pin size, and even pin posts sometimes doesn't make sense. We used to do sets of PTDs but even then not all of them looked that great. It would be better if newer PTDs were made with the mindset of being a series for the movie, rather than here is a character with an ice cream - who cares if we've repeated it seven times or that this one is HUGE compared to the others.

Beloved Tales are great because they go well together (the major problem only being Wall-e as it is slightly smaller than the rest) unlike the others. (PTNs definitively go well together too and so do the Sorcerer Hats - but Marquees, PTDs and Characters in Sorcerer Hats are all different sizes). They're also great because they're all LE 300 so it feels like more of a series than the rest (of DSF series) to us.

You stated many "matters of opinion." But I stated the facts. Your only fact is that the sizes are different. BT has had quality issues. I remember seeing a Melody Time BT where the Pin-on-Pin element was completely broken in the package on the rack. I personally don't care about words, years, size, etc. I'm still waiting for them to do a Jumbo BT similar to Paris PTN pins. I wonder if they've even thought about it. BT's are nice, but the scene selection might mean more to someone than others. Everyone has different tastes, I'm not trying to say one collection is better than the other, simply that low LE continuous collections typically increase in value over time and that the more there are and the older they get the harder they are to collect.