Venting about weird TA request reply

[suzanneb]

I apologize for the vent/rant in advance, but i just got a reply that makes me angry when I see one like it. I ACCEPTED a TA I got from PinPIcs (and yes the person is ALSO a MEMBER of this Forum, and NOT a newbie). I say in reply to the TA: "lets trade" and give my addy. I probably SHOULD have put a copy of THEIR TA at the TOP of the email and said: "I would like to make this trade you propose". the TA was STILL in the body of the reply I made. So, what do I get back from this "non-newbie": "No thanks!" Excuse me, but he/she OFFERED ME the trade, and I was accepting. if they had a change of heart, or second thought about the offer, or pin is traded, THAT is what they should have said!
"No thanks" is a totally inappropriate response to someone ACCEPTING a TA request! IMHO
Thank you for letting me rant about a big pet peeve of mine.

 

[Mahrii]

I understand your frustration. However, know that many people complain of never receiving an answer back. I for one try to respond to everyone, but sometimes there are so any requests that I either don't have time to reply or reply a quick copied and pasted response to try to offer some kind of response.
I never thought my attempt at pleasing the other person's need to receive a response would upset the other person. I have about 80 trades requests or response to a request to answer and I don't want to offer a detailed response to each, I just simply don't have the time.

I don't know if this was me or someone else, but just wanting to share a different point of view.

 

[suzanneb]

a simple: "pin is traded, or sorry I made a mistake" would have been appreciated.
I was the one REPLYING YES to THEIR TA, not the other way around. Its not the same as saying "no thanks" when the TA is sent TO you

 

[weRsiamese]

I had one where I accepted thier trade request and then they came back with "well what other pins are you going to add to it?" when the trade was already in thier favor, but they wanted me to add more pins to it! Of course I declined. I get that too, where I respond that I'd like to trade and they'll reply that they dont have that pin, but would I trade for something that is obviously not a fair trade. Um no.

 

[suzanneb]

yeah, WeRSiamese, that a good one too...in fact MUCH better than mine...
I will delete all future TA requests from this trader... I have a friend who says they've had trouble w them before...scheeeschh...

 

[imp]

I have to agree that simple courtesy calls for a little bit more...it takes a few seconds to say "sorry but I accepted another trade" or "sorry I checked that one off by mistake".

 

[Bryana]

I have about 80 trades requests or response to a request to answer

Man my pins must suck because I'm lucky if I get 2 requests a week.

 

[Zagales14]

I completely understand your rant. However, I think this has more to do with the way TA is set up. For example: Every time I send out Trade Offers, I use an add-on called Toggle Em All so that I don't have to browse through the 100+ pins that are available for me to check for every pin. I want all the pins on my want list, but there are some pins that I have for trade that I would not trade for some specific pins on my wants... (Limited Edition pins for open edition pins, for example). My add-on does not recognize this though, so it clicks everything, and I submit. If I had to sit there and browse through every pin I would trade each and every time, it would take forever.

My biggest objective when I send out these offers is to get conversation/negotiation started. I don't consider it a formal straight up offer that the other person could outright accept right off the bat. Often times, it works out that way, but a negotiation is usually the result of the offer.

One of the things I do when trading is that I like to trade pins in trades of 3 for 3 or larger, to make shipping worthwhile. When I have a special "rule" like that, I try to type it up into the comment box...

However, again, I can understand your frustration.

 

[tiggermickey]

I got one the other day,the trade was in their favor and I accepted it as I wanted the pin...they said~~~are you freakin crazy???i am being nice with that word there as it was somethinelse instead,I thought it was very rude and I just delete the request from them now...but I have gotten a few doozies from pinpics lately.a simple I am sorry ,but I accepted another trade would of been good too

 

[suzanneb]

wow Judy, that's a real ZINGER too! I STILL LOVE TA, but folks really should be APPROPRIATE in ANSWER to someone who ACCEPTS THEIR TA request!

 

[imp]

I completely understand your rant. However, I think this has more to do with the way TA is set up. For example: Every time I send out Trade Offers, I use an add-on called Toggle Em All so that I don't have to browse through the 100+ pins that are available for me to check for every pin. I want all the pins on my want list, but there are some pins that I have for trade that I would not trade for some specific pins on my wants... (Limited Edition pins for open edition pins, for example). My add-on does not recognize this though, so it clicks everything, and I submit. If I had to sit there and browse through every pin I would trade each and every time, it would take forever.

My biggest objective when I send out these offers is to get conversation/negotiation started. I don't consider it a formal straight up offer that the other person could outright accept right off the bat. Often times, it works out that way, but a negotiation is usually the result of the offer.

One of the things I do when trading is that I like to trade pins in trades of 3 for 3 or larger, to make shipping worthwhile. When I have a special "rule" like that, I try to type it up into the comment box...

However, again, I can understand your frustration.

I think you do have to be a little more selective in checking off those boxes. It takes a long time, largely because TA is not set up well at all, but that's just the way it is. As an extreme example: an offer of a hidden mickey for an LE500 with a good trade ratio is not likely to get much of a dialogue started. There is also the danger that if other traders are frequently getting lop-sided requests from you, they will start to delete your requests without even reading them.

Your other option is to check them all off and then check your pending requests to delete some of them.

 

[suzanneb]

and yes, that comment line should be used, especially if sender things more pins are needed "may need an additional pin" or something like that. This one was a straight 1 for 1 trade OFFER with NO COMMENTS.

 

[pinnochiolover]

Hi Suzanne, I sympathise, you certainly deserved a better response.

A high percentage of TA requests that I respond yes to, are never acknowledged, Ive grown used to it! Certainly sucks!

 

[Donna]

Hi Suzanne, I sympathise, you certainly deserved a better response.

A high percentage of TA requests that I respond yes to, are never acknowledged, Ive grown used to it! Certainly sucks!

+1,000 especially when I accept their offer and reply with my address(UK) it seems to be the kiss of death to any possible trades lately

 

[tw1080]

+1,000 especially when I accept their offer and reply with my address(UK) it seems to be the kiss of death to any possible trades lately

Why? Is it exceptionally or unreasonably expensive to ship to you?? I know it costs a little more and it's probably a little slower, but it can't be insane???

 

[Bryana]

Why? Is it exceptionally or unreasonably expensive to ship to you?? I know it costs a little more and it's probably a little slower, but it can't be insane???

Unfortunately when the mail rates went up last month, international went WAY up. A packages that used to cost $4 and some change now costs $7 and some change.

 

[imp]

When I respond to requests I always ask if they're OK with shipping to Canada, and I let them know about the option to send as "large envelope" (which is much cheaper).

 

[suzanneb]

Thank you for all the good comments. I emailed back the person who sent me the TA & then said "no thanks" after I accepted, but NOW SILENCE. I will be deleting this traders offers from now on

 

[Ozzie1988]

Maybe the trader got the pin, that happened with the Merida chaser I got like 100 requests but I got her so I declined all of them. At least she said no and didn't just ignore you. We should have the right to back out of a trade at any time it's up to the persons discretion

 

[Ozzie1988]

Unfortunately when the mail rates went up last month, international went WAY up. A packages that used to cost $4 and some change now costs $7 and some change.

I had to spend 80$ on shipping like two weeks ago sending zaps and trades to the uk, each was about $7-12 it was crazy. Now I factor that into trades

 

[tiggermickey]

I sent 3 pins overseas and it cost me 9.45 and it would of cost less before the prices went up

 

[suzanneb]

IMHO it is polite to say "sorry pin is traded" to someone accepting a TA offer.
"no thank you" to an acceptance makes NO sense & is very impolite. Yes, anyone can change their mind, but there are MANY nicer ways of saying so

 

[imp]

I think there's a problem with postal clerks not knowing/caring about cheaper shipping options. Using the USPS site's postage calculator, here are some sample rates for a "Large Envelope" to the U.K.: $2.90 (2 oz.), $3.75 (3 oz.), $4.60 (4 oz.), and $5.45 (5 oz.)

A few average pins in a bubble envelope with some bubble wrap should generally be under 3 oz. (maybe Judy's have a couple extra ounces of tape!...lol).

There are requirements that the envelope not be too rigid and not vary in thickness by more than 1/4", but you can address those issues by how you package the pins. I know that several people (including Catz here on DPF) have sent me pins recently as "Large Envelope" and they paid only $2.25 (to Canada).

 

[Bryana]

I think there's a problem with postal clerks not knowing/caring about cheaper shipping options. Using the USPS site's postage calculator, here are some sample rates for a "Large Envelope" to the U.K.: $2.90 (2 oz.), $3.75 (3 oz.), $4.60 (4 oz.), and $5.45 (5 oz.)

A few average pins in a bubble envelope with some bubble wrap should generally be under 3 oz. (maybe Judy's have a couple extra ounces of tape!...lol).

There are requirements that the envelope not be too rigid and not vary in thickness by more than 1/4", but you can address those issues by how you package the pins. I know that several people (including Catz here on DPF) have sent me pins recently as "Large Envelope" and they paid only $2.25 (to Canada).

Thanks for that info. I'll have to look more closely when I post overseas.

 

[HandA]

I think there's a problem with postal clerks not knowing/caring about cheaper shipping options. Using the USPS site's postage calculator, here are some sample rates for a "Large Envelope" to the U.K.: $2.90 (2 oz.), $3.75 (3 oz.), $4.60 (4 oz.), and $5.45 (5 oz.)

A few average pins in a bubble envelope with some bubble wrap should generally be under 3 oz. (maybe Judy's have a couple extra ounces of tape!...lol).

There are requirements that the envelope not be too rigid and not vary in thickness by more than 1/4", but you can address those issues by how you package the pins. I know that several people (including Catz here on DPF) have sent me pins recently as "Large Envelope" and they paid only $2.25 (to Canada).

I've found that most clerks (rightly or wrongly) will gig you for the 1/4" variation. I know on my last trip I got charged over 9 dollars to ship 2 pins to the UK, and that was the only possible criteria they could've applied.