What's the difference? * Terminology*
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- Sometimes a pin that makes it through quality control and is for sale in Disney Stores can also be considered a scrapper once it leaves the store because there are problems with it.
This is not true at all. A scrapper by definition is a pin that is scrapped during the production process for any reason. Quality control on a single pin or sometimes an entire run of a pin with an error. If Disney is selling a pin, it is obviously not a scrapper since Disney accepted it and is selling it. Now with that said, its true that there are many times when Disney has sold a pin or is currently selling a pin that should not have passed quality control. If it would have been rejected, it would then be a scrapper. If Disney sells it, its just a low quality pin.
The other term you are looking for is over run.
Also, a Fantasy pin never violates copyrights. They are pins that allude to Disney but do not infringe in any way. For example, a random castle vs Cinderella Castle. A clown fish vs Nemo.
Then there are Bootleg pins that are original designs that clearly violate copyrights of characters.
Hello there,
thanks for posting the different terminology.
Just FYI I know that the Stitch wishing pin had a actual production error on it and some of them got back stamped with Winnie the Pooh info, but it came that way from disney.
It is pinpics 47331
Quality post, but I am going to have to disagree with you about something...hehe!
Most of the scrappers I have had in hand ARE lighter than the REAL version of the pin... Maybe because there is no gloss cover to add additional weight... :dunno:
I never really thought about the difference between Fantasy and bootleg. Aren't they pretty much the same? Because a "Fantasy" Tinker Bell in a bikini is still a Tinker Bell and therefore disney copyright property correct? Does that mean that the term Fantasy is not correct in that case? Can we discuss this more so i can add/change it in the OP please?
Don't check the boards that often so sorry for my slow reply. If a pin shows Tinker Bell and it wasn't made by Disney, it is a bootleg. Nothing Fantasy about it. Since that violates the copyrights on the characters. Now, if a pin hints at Tinker Bell and makes you think of Tink but does not actually violate any copyrights on the character, that is a Fantasy pin. A lot of times, people will call a Bootleg pin a Fantasy pin to try and advertise the fact that it was not made by Disney but if it violates a copyright, its not a Fantasy pin. Fantasy sounds a lot better than bootleg when trying to explain its not made by Disney. Over time, it seems the true definition of Fantasy pin has been getting lost by people calling bootleg pins fantasy pins to lessen the stigma of it. Very similar to how the term scrapper has pretty much lost its original meaning and I believe that at least 95% of all pins people call scrappers are actually counterfeit copies and not true scrappers.
For example. This pin is a Bootleg. It was not made by Disney and it is clearly Tinker Bell.
Now these would be considered Fantasy pins. Not made by Disney and generic enough that it does not violate copyrights on the characters.
OOO I have that bootleg Tink and I LOVE IT! The lady that made it is no longer on this earth but I still cherish her pin! The information here regarding the difference between a bootleg and a fantasy pin is absolutely correct. A bootleg infringes while a fantasy does not.
Quality post, but I am going to have to disagree with you about something...hehe!
Most of the scrappers I have had in hand ARE lighter than the REAL version of the pin... Maybe because there is no gloss cover to add additional weight... :dunno:
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