DisneyStore Limited Edition 17" Dolls Discussion

[Disneylover]

I get them all. but I refuse to do this set should it be real. Its over kill and the price for retail is unreasonable to me. Im learning to be greatful for the "Mass limited editions" (teal jasmine) and not worry about varients (red). lol because 5,000 isnt really limited anymore its going to be about the limited limited editions of 100-500 it seems.

Im guessing if they do the platinum set, then it will be alladin in his prince outfit with purple jasmine, that's just my guess, and I miss the old days when you can get a high quality doll that didn't skimp out on details, for only 100$. It makes the regular le dolls seem less special, and if the platinum set is true. Then I bet that it will cost 500$, or more.

 

[poisonivyprince]

Im guessing if they do the platinum set, then it will be alladin in his prince outfit with purple jasmine, that's just my guess, and I miss the old days when you can get a high quality doll that didn't skimp out on details, for only 100$. It makes the regular le dolls seem less special, and if the platinum set is true. Then I bet that it will cost 500$, or more.

Yes it certainly seems like they went all out for snow and gave tiana and belle a prop and then stopped a bit short on a lot of others, I think ariel, alice, and aurora sit nicely with snow white if they had a prop would be exactly on par with her but costume wise Im satisfied with them. the rumored set is supposed to be $750

 

[lordofanime]

Yeah.... I would start saving up if people want to get this set. I am 99% sure that it's true. Why? Because LE500 Cinderella.

I wouldn't surprised if this set was just a 100 or 200 limited set.

 

[poisonivyprince]

Yeah.... I would start saving up if people want to get this set. I am 99% sure that it's true. Why? Because LE500 Cinderella.

I wouldn't surprised if this set was just a 100 or 200 limited set.

im passing on it for sure ive been neglecting my super heroes collection for a few months. time to get some busts and statues! All I have planned for disney is up to nov. 3rd and Im done till next wave in '16

 

[amm3]

If this Aladdin set is true, then I guess this is something that is going to happen with nearly every release now.

That price is what my top limit would be for the more expensive second hand grail dolls, which is why I still don't have Coronation Anna or Snow White.

 

[poisonivyprince]

If this Aladdin set is true, then I guess this is something that is going to happen with nearly every release now.

That price is what my top limit would be for the more expensive second hand grail dolls, which is why I still don't have Coronation Anna or Snow White.

Amen! Preach! I was really hoping they wouldn't do that but it looks like that's going to be the new trend. a $500 doll with each release now.......

 

[Disneylover]

It seems like the regular le dolls are now more general release with these more limited and detailed ones, makes the regular le dolls seem as deluxe rather than le.


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[pupuce]

750 dollars for the LE jasmine and aladdin set. So now only riches can buy the dolls. It's the end for the ordinary collectors. prepare your 700 dollars for Emma watson belle doll.

 

[StarJem]

I really hope this isn't true. They're starting all these new things with my favorite princess and it really bothers me that I have to be super rich in order to afford these other two dolls (D23 & this new mystery set). I'm also not willing to drop hundreds of dollars on just one doll so I'll just not get her. I've already come to grips that I'll never own Tiana, Purple Rapunzel, or Alice, who are the only three other past LE dolls I want due to price. Now these new dolls are going to start off at basically second market prices and that's really discouraging. Maybe I'll just stick to designers after the Frozen Fever dolls.

 

[Starlord3301]

750 dollars for the LE jasmine and aladdin set. So now only riches can buy the dolls. It's the end for the ordinary collectors. prepare your 700 dollars for Emma watson belle doll.

God I hope that's not the case I love Belle and Emma Watson and hope to get a LE 17" doll from that film. I'm betting there will be 2 releases I just hope the normal priced LE doll is nice looking by the time beauty and the beast release in 2017 who knows how much the dolls will cost then $800 or $900 doesn't seem impossible if Disney keeps raising the price with each release

 

[cambridge1066]

I found a place that mentioned this set, but after the 17'' Hans hoax back in March I don't take any rumors seriously unless Disney confirms them. However, if it is true and there will be a $750 Aladdin/Jasmine I'm going to be so thankful I only collect the dolls I want that are also affordably priced.

 

[lapetitesirene]

The thing I liked about these dolls over BJDs (I used to collect those, too) was that I could actually attain a beautiful doll for $100. BJDs the size of a 17" LE doll cost anywhere from $400-$1000, if you're looking at a limited set. Now it seems like I might as well go back to artist-crafted dolls rather than mass-produced, poorly detailed Disney dolls if they're going to go at a rate of $750. I might as well go get some of the unattainable dolls for that price! I feel bad enough for everybody who can't have their 17" grails (and I thank God I got my purple Rapunzel before her massive price jump) but now it seems we're to expect a sort of "basic" LE doll and then the ~~special~~ LE doll. The whole purpose of them being LE is to feel like you're getting something special! These super limited sets and super high prices just undermine the single dolls

REALLY hoping it's just a rumor… but knowing Disney, it's probably not.

 

[poisonivyprince]

With disney there is no longer rhyme or reason as to releases. If d23 taught us anything its to expect the unexpected and make damn sure you have one hell of a doll account ready. But not everyones going to be able thats for sure.

 

[Disneylover]

750 dollars for the LE jasmine and aladdin set. So now only riches can buy the dolls. It's the end for the ordinary collectors. prepare your 700 dollars for Emma watson belle doll.

I bet they'll make the regular limited edition Emma Watson doll in her yellow dress for us regular folk, and some kind of extravagant outfit she wears for 500$


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[Disneylover]

The thing I liked about these dolls over BJDs (I used to collect those, too) was that I could actually attain a beautiful doll for $100. BJDs the size of a 17" LE doll cost anywhere from $400-$1000, if you're looking at a limited set. Now it seems like I might as well go back to artist-crafted dolls rather than mass-produced, poorly detailed Disney dolls if they're going to go at a rate of $750. I might as well go get some of the unattainable dolls for that price! I feel bad enough for everybody who can't have their 17" grails (and I thank God I got my purple Rapunzel before her massive price jump) but now it seems we're to expect a sort of "basic" LE doll and then the ~~special~~ LE doll. The whole purpose of them being LE is to feel like you're getting something special! These super limited sets and super high prices just undermine the single dolls

REALLY hoping it's just a rumor… but knowing Disney, it's probably not.

I don't mind if harrods makes the super limited set, it doesn't seem as bad when they make an le doll, since it's for that particular store. But when Disney is just churning out all these dolls for lower quality, and stunning dolls for unattainable prices, then it makes it seem less fun to collect; I felt the same way for a while when they announced the harrods Aurora, and I felt we were shortchanged since Disney should be making high quality dolls anyways. I guess the days of buying one doll of that character with super fine quality fabric, details, and accessories are over.


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[poisonivyprince]

I don't mind if harrods makes the super limited set, it doesn't seem as bad when they make an le doll, since it's for that particular store. But when Disney is just churning out all these dolls for lower quality, and stunning dolls for unattainable prices, then it makes it seem less fun to collect; I felt the same way for a while when they announced the harrods Aurora, and I felt we were shortchanged since Disney should be making high quality dolls anyways. I guess the days of buying one doll of that character with super fine quality fabric, details, and accessories are over.]

the thing about harrods or d23 past years is that its usually a more embellished doll variant of one that was "mass" produced. if they making completely different outfits on these dolls then it becomes that much harder to get that particular doll. for example if they made only 100 snow queen elsas what would that be like to the majority..... I just dont like that they would make a completely different doll like that, like red jasmine or now a purple jasmine thats not available in a "basic" form. so thats kind of disappointing because its like instant grail status

 

[Disneylover]

I don't mind if harrods makes the super limited set, it doesn't seem as bad when they make an le doll, since it's for that particular store. But when Disney is just churning out all these dolls for lower quality, and stunning dolls for unattainable prices, then it makes it seem less fun to collect; I felt the same way for a while when they announced the harrods Aurora, and I felt we were shortchanged since Disney should be making high quality dolls anyways. I guess the days of buying one doll of that character with super fine quality fabric, details, and accessories are over.]

the thing about harrods or d23 past years is that its usually a more embellished doll variant of one that was "mass" produced. if they making completely different outfits on these dolls then it becomes that much harder to get that particular doll. for example if they made only 100 snow queen elsas what would that be like to the majority..... I just dont like that they would make a completely different doll like that, like red jasmine or now a purple jasmine thats not available in a "basic" form. so thats kind of disappointing because its like instant grail status

Or like wedding Cinderella. I guess the new thing now is making dolls with different outfits, at unaffordable prices. If they are making this set at that price, then it better be jaw dropping.


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[lapetitesirene]

The thing with Aurora and Harrods Aurora was definitely that Disney advertised the Harrods Aurora as the regular. That made me so mad.

I just can't justify the extreme prices, not even with an outfit variant. Let's say that Disney does make this Aladdin/Jasmine set, maybe LE 500, at $750. And say that the cost to produce each doll, divided evenly, is $10 (I don't think it is--but I'm including not only production costs but also overhead, artists' wages, designers' wages, ect.) Disney would make a profit of $375,000 and only have invested $5,000 dollars. Now I know that this is probably totally off--there are a lot of things that go into the cost of production. BUT it is something to think about! $100 for an LE doll is fine to me… I don't mind that price. But because you're getting two dolls in one box with "LE 500" slapped on the front, you have to pay over 700 dollars.

It also bugs me that Snow White, purple Rapunzel, Tiana, and some of the other earlier dolls were made with amazing quality. The nice fabrics, attention to detail, the innovative designs; those were the drawing factors of this line. They were sold for $100.
Now, in the more recent dolls, we've got variants, impossible-to-attain LEs that go for 2x, 3x, 4x their retail price. The quality has gone down, the designs are not all that fresh or exciting, and while they can be considered on their own beautiful dolls, when I put my blue Aurora next to my purple Rapunzel, I feel like there is a definite difference. And these dolls have now gone up in price to $120, and will probably go up more.

I dunno. It may be a rumor and we're all getting worked up over nothing, but there are patterns here.

 

[Disneylover]

With harrods Aurora, I felt the regular edition was a mere imitation basically, sort of like a knockoff but official. One thing I don't get is how Disney justified 500$ for wedding Cinderella. I've heard she's gorgeous, but there are so many things I can list on the top of my head that could be improved, such as embroidered flowers that were more pastel colors, and more flowy fabric choices, and another thing would be to give her shoes at least some kind of decoration! If they could give Tiana unique high heels with fabric flowers for 100$, then surely Disney can add something so simple for a doll that's originally 500$!


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[lapetitesirene]

Exactly! They've gotten lazy, and it's cheaper to cut corners. They know the line is successful and they know that we'll buy it no matter the price because we collect. And even if we don't, scalpers will.

 

[Disneylover]

Exactly! They've gotten lazy, and it's cheaper to cut corners. They know the line is successful and they know that we'll buy it no matter the price because we collect. And even if we don't, scalpers will.

Reminds of a song that was in the Simpsons, it went like," if you cut every corner there'll be more time for play! It's the American way!" It's true though that they are cutting corners though, I highly doubt these dolls are that pricey to make to begin with, but I understand that high quality fabric can be pricey, but they shouldn't have an excuse since they were able to make awesome dolls like Snow White, Tiana, Rapunzel, Alice, Anna, and Elsa.


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[amm3]

I agree with absolutely everything everyone is saying. I know Disney is a business, but their unbridled, over-the-top, blatant greed is starting to become a a real turn-off for me. Not to mention these "games" they play with their consumers like --- oh surprise! we're releasing the designer set an hour before we said we would--- or how they advertised with photos of the Aurora Harrods doll and then gave us a lesser version --- or how they continue to ship these high-priced items with completely inadequate packaging despite consumers constant complaints about it, and etc. etc. etc....

This is supposed to be a fun and pleasurable pastime and it's ridiculous how much stress, disappointment and even rage, it causes everyone. It's really sad. A new study will come out in a couple of years that finds "8 out of 10 Disney doll collectors die early from heart attacks due to stress." LOL.

I love my Disney dolls, but I'm finding myself enjoying my other non-Disney dolls more because they don't provoke so much anxiety.

You could claim they are releasing these Platinum sets due to demand, but if the demand for dolls is higher, then why not make higher edition sizes and make them available to more people and make them more attainable? I think it is more about catering to elitism than anything else, to be honest.

I know this is still just a rumor, but I didn't think the red Jasmine would happen either so I wouldn't be surprised if it is true. I certainly don't put it past Disney. And we are all assuming this set will be LE 500 but I wouldn't be surprised if the edition size is smaller like around 300 or less. The higher the price, the lower the edition size usually. And I'm sure the set will be gorgeous, but look at how detailed and beautiful 17" Snow White is and she was only $100 AND came with the movie to boot!

For $750, the Aladdin set should include a magic carpet...one that actually flies. LOL

 

[Disneylover]

I don't get the whole higher the price, lower edition size really. An example that disproves that is le Alice. I think it's just an excuse for Disney to be greedy.


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[amm3]

I don't get the whole higher the price, lower edition size really. An example that disproves that is le Alice. I think it's just an excuse for Disney to be greedy.


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I guess it's because if the doll is more expensive they assume less people will buy it? They don't want to be stuck with unsold items.

Or maybe it's because the more exclusive it is, the more people will want it?

 

[Disneylover]

I guess it's because if the doll is more expensive they assume less people will buy it? They don't want to be stuck with unsold items.

Or maybe it's because the more exclusive it is, the more people will want it?

That could be true, but scampers buy the doll nonetheless, one way or another these dolls sell out.


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