Disney Pin Place - Pin detection prototype iOS app [VIDEO] - Do you want this?

[The Wise One]

I wouldn't mind paying a small monthly fee (I'd say less than $5 a month though) or pay x amount of dollars for so many scans.

 

[hopemax]

What about the "Disney interference" problem? I know in the past people have tried to make an app with checklists of just hidden mickey pins. Apple sends it to Disney, Disney rejects it because it's not free.

 

[Nettiejeanne]

I think the initial cost could easily be the cost of a pin... $9.99. A monthly fee? No. I wouldn't do that, but $5 for 500 scans? Absolutely! Sign me up now!

 

[rik1138]

What about the "Disney interference" problem? I know in the past people have tried to make an app with checklists of just hidden mickey pins. Apple sends it to Disney, Disney rejects it because it's not free.

Who says it has to be a 'Disney' app? It's just an app for catalog a pin collection... Sure, it happens to focus a lot on Disney pins, but that doesn't have to be expressly declared in the app name or description.

With that in mind, what does the app do (or plan to do) when you scan something it doesn't recognize? Say, a new pin not in DPP, or one that's not photographed there (or a non-Disney pin), will it give you the option of adding it to your personal collection on the phone (not necessarily uploading to DPP or anything, just a local collection...)

 

[rik1138]

I think you should price it around $2.99 to make it appeal to casual collectors. People seem to have a mental block paying more than that for an app (but are ok then spending another $100 on in-app purchases). For the $2.99 you give them a usable app that lets them scan X number of times per day. They can pay for extra scans (you should make a nice amount any time there is a PTN or other event when people will want extra scans). Let people earn extra scans by signing up for partner offer and referring customers.

This I actually like... If you could make it a one-time cost for the very casual users, with the option for in-app purchases when they want/need to scan 10s or 100s of pins, that would be awesome. Just a matter of whether that covers your cost or not though.

 

[pdgurl]

very nice but would only pay for it if it were under 25 a year not month

 

[LuvSimba]

I really like the idea of this app. It looks really nice and easy to use. For me, I would pay per scan over monthly recurring charges. I am also an Android user.

This! I like the pay per scan or a once a year charge.

I'm at WDW quite frequently and would use this all the time. If you need a beta tester for Android, let me know!

 

[Ozzie1988]

What about the "Disney interference" problem? I know in the past people have tried to make an app with checklists of just hidden mickey pins. Apple sends it to Disney, Disney rejects it because it's not free.

Yea mark tried the hidden Mickey app and Disney stopped it, maybe add random pins and focus on that as an application pitch leaving as much Disney out of it as possible.

 

[kupo1121]

Wow, now THAT is a cool app. The one thing to note though is that if it is pay per scan, that scanning system better be 100% accurate. I'd rather not pay $5 for 500 scans and then waste 5 of those scans trying to find a pin with the right lighting so that it reads it correctly. Given there are so many pins with the character in the same pose, light would be important after all I believe (or maybe it could pull up all the pins with that pose so that the person could at least locate the pin easier?).

 

[Molly]

I love the concept but also agree that I wouldn't pay a monthly fee to use it when I can simply do the drudge work and find it myself for free. Would I buy the app for say $9.99? Probably. But that would only be if it worked for a huge catalog of pins and did not require any additional payments.

I think it's AWESOME so please don't take my response as negative, I just hate paying for anything pin related that I could be spending on pins! And I am also personally avoiding incurring any repeated monthly charges while I dig out of medical debt. My #1 complaint about PP was that they were taking a user built free service and trying to milk collectors to use it, where this is a new and super cool thing I don't think the majority of hobbyist would pay month after month to use it because it's not that difficlut to find pins using the OLD SITE at pp and I think most of us would rarely need to know bad enough to pay for it.

Again totally brilliant idea, you're awesome

 

[OlafOlaf]

Looks nice and seems really convenient but I wouldn't pay for it. I only pay once for an app; to buy it. But that's my personal preference, I have nothing against it.

 

[SwindonTinkerbell]

I love the idea of the app but putting a price on its a bit silly cause we can just go on the nets on our smart phones for nothing to deal with the pins so i would get the app for free


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[jennisney]

oh yes, i like the idea of $5 for 500 scans, as I dont live near the parks so wouldnt need to pay monthly for the service

 

[ClanMcDuck]

I think a yearly, or even quarterly fee would be good for me. Monthly isn't my favorite thing. but this is REALLLY an amazing project!

 

[pinnochiolover]

It looks brilliant for in person trading, but unfortunately thats not something I get to do. I would certainly subscribe to it if I was in a position to use it regularly.

 

[markheardjr]

My problem was they said the pins were Disney copyrighted artwork and because my app was extremely basic and just the artwork in the app already Apple said I needed Disney's blessing. I made it through legal fine, it was that stupid B* at the top of the Merchandise world that said "no." Just 2 letters to her response after 18 months of legal, Disney Interactive skype sessions, powerpont briefings. My app would have been $0.99 forever, one-time fee. And I would update free when new Hidden Mickey's came out.

But this app is different. if you are not storing any Disney digital media in the app, and it is just visual recognition of something you take a photo of, then I don't think they can stop you. So just keep all Disney images/content out of it. No mickey shapes, no stock images, etc.

 

[ethanwa]

My problem was they said the pins were Disney copyrighted artwork and because my app was extremely basic and just the artwork in the app already Apple said I needed Disney's blessing. I made it through legal fine, it was that stupid B* at the top of the Merchandise world that said "no." Just 2 letters to her response after 18 months of legal, Disney Interactive skype sessions, powerpont briefings. My app would have been $0.99 forever, one-time fee. And I would update free when new Hidden Mickey's came out.

But this app is different. if you are not storing any Disney digital media in the app, and it is just visual recognition of something you take a photo of, then I don't think they can stop you. So just keep all Disney images/content out of it. No mickey shapes, no stock images, etc.

That's what I plan to do. I will make it a generic "Pin Place" pin collecting app, and all images and demos will just use Olympic pins (or something else more generic) as examples. It will pass Apple's approval no problem.

By the way, as an app developer since 2008, I have also had my fair share of rejections similar to your Disney one. I have had a Disney app rejected, as well as LEGO and Hot Wheels. They are really not letting anything with copyrighted stuff from big companies slip through, even if it's copyright fair use! It sucks.

 

[markheardjr]

I got an "ok" from Disney Interactive and I was about to resubmit to App store and then the E.S. person brought down the hammer. I was going to do it anywas and see what the interest was and wait to see how long the cease & dessist took but I just gave up. Cost me $300 for books, Developer license, and small amount of Elance outsourcing. But I make an iPhone app, which is kind of cool. I can put it on my own phone but who cares now.

 

[BugCatcherJenna]

This is AMAZING!

 

[Vixy]

Wow, that's fantastic. I would definitely use this.

As with others, since I don't live near the parks and am thus not looking at pins on a consistent basis, I would favor either just the $5 for 500 scans (or however many), or the one-time app download fee for x scans per day, plus extra in-app purchases for additional scans. If you got the numbers right you'd probably make enough money doing the latter. I'd go as high as $5 or $10 for the initial fee.

I'm an Android user. I have an iPad, but I don't carry it around the parks with me, so it would only be feasible for me in an Android version.

I really hope you can do this, because it looks amazing!

 

[C.Fr3dricks3n]

I love the concept but also agree that I wouldn't pay a monthly fee to use it when I can simply do the drudge work and find it myself for free. Would I buy the app for say $9.99? Probably. But that would only be if it worked for a huge catalog of pins and did not require any additional payments.

I think it's AWESOME so please don't take my response as negative, I just hate paying for anything pin related that I could be spending on pins! And I am also personally avoiding incurring any repeated monthly charges while I dig out of medical debt. My #1 complaint about PP was that they were taking a user built free service and trying to milk collectors to use it, where this is a new and super cool thing I don't think the majority of hobbyist would pay month after month to use it because it's not that difficlut to find pins using the OLD SITE at pp and I think most of us would rarely need to know bad enough to pay for it.

Again totally brilliant idea, you're awesome

For one I would agree on her terms. A one time fee would work. We al have Tapatalk an Forumrunner as an app for DPF and most downloaded it free and few paid the upgrade app. But once downloaded, no one in todays world wants monthly fees. Everyone is abandoning Pinpics for the same reason - monthly/yearly fee. As most know people just post on Facebook a pin and instantly they can get an answer on the pin and its information if needed.

The App looks awesome but for newbies at trade events or in line for pins that are looking at books for trade. Just pop open the app and now they know instead of wondering. Everyone has been to trade night and saw a pin and said wheres that from or is it worth an upgrade trade? Now well know, but for most "veterans" we are on a search for specific pin and have full information on what were looking for? Rarely for me, I go into trading and not know what I am looking for. Given, I may have passed up a trade due to not knowing a specific pin I was offered that would have been an upgrade that could have gotten me a Grail but if everyone had the App, this would not happen on both ends.

Currently, I have people say wait, then they check eBay and Pinpins before a trade is made to see if it is 'fair'. The App would just be added to this part of in the works for a trade.

I like the App.

 

[C.Fr3dricks3n]

I love the concept but also agree that I wouldn't pay a monthly fee to use it when I can simply do the drudge work and find it myself for free. Would I buy the app for say $9.99? Probably. But that would only be if it worked for a huge catalog of pins and did not require any additional payments.

I think it's AWESOME so please don't take my response as negative, I just hate paying for anything pin related that I could be spending on pins! And I am also personally avoiding incurring any repeated monthly charges while I dig out of medical debt. My #1 complaint about PP was that they were taking a user built free service and trying to milk collectors to use it, where this is a new and super cool thing I don't think the majority of hobbyist would pay month after month to use it because it's not that difficlut to find pins using the OLD SITE at pp and I think most of us would rarely need to know bad enough to pay for it.

Again totally brilliant idea, you're awesome

For one I would agree on her terms. A one time fee would work. We al have Tapatalk an Forumrunner as an app for DPF and most downloaded it free and few paid the upgrade app. But once downloaded, no one in todays world wants monthly fees. Everyone is abandoning Pinpics for the same reason - monthly/yearly fee. As most know people just post on Facebook a pin and instantly they can get an answer on the pin and its information if needed.

The App looks awesome but for newbies at trade events or in line for pins that are looking at books for trade. Just pop open the app and now they know instead of wondering. Everyone has been to trade night and saw a pin and said wheres that from or is it worth an upgrade trade? Now well know, but for most "veterans" we are on a search for specific pin and have full information on what were looking for? Rarely for me, I go into trading and not know what I am looking for. Given, I may have passed up a trade due to not knowing a specific pin I was offered that would have been an upgrade that could have gotten me a Grail but if everyone had the App, this would not happen on both ends.

Currently, I have people say wait, then they check eBay and Pinpins before a trade is made to see if it is 'fair'. The App would just be added to this part of in the works for a trade.

I like the App.

 

[markheardjr]

I say the max I'd do is 19.99 or better yet, you should ask for pins in return for download codes. Then Apple doesn't get their 30% off the top or whatever it is.

 

[Ozzie1988]

once more

how much would a monthly server charge?

how are the costs for DPP covered? i dont see any ads on DPP so the fees have to get covered somehow cant you just do the same for the app?

 

[ethanwa]

I pay for Disney Pin Place out of my own pocket. I provide it free to people because I want to and I dislike the way the PinPics site changed. Some people have been kind enough to donate some money to keep the servers up as well.

I have spent 100's of hours on the project, and continue to do so. I can't put an actual $$ figure to the costs, because my personal time is worth real money. The cost of running an app like this is much more than the actual dollars spent for a physical server... It's my time that needs to be covered as well.

Unfortunately ads (as a way to earn money) are not an option for this app because of how low they pay out. The CPM payout on ads is ridiculously low.