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PIN & POP PIN & POP Site Announcements & Ideas

Pidge said:
Erm. I sure hope it’s just for the next TA. I already have about 10 votes in 🤣
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what's it supposed to do?
There's alot of pins I'd love to see in a trade arcade, and also guarantee they end up on my corkboards or in the next package for my friend- so will this enable that?
 
hdtv267 said:
what's it supposed to do?
There's alot of pins I'd love to see in a trade arcade, and also guarantee they end up on my corkboards or in the next package for my friend- so will this enable that?
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I suspect the info will show up for VIPs when setting up tables, and may help in choosing what to put on tables, but it’s new to me too.
 
Pidge said:
I suspect the info will show up for VIPs when setting up tables, and may help in choosing what to put on tables, but it’s new to me too.
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yeah- but when you're setting up a table as a VIP you'll see if there's a pin that you have as a trader that a member has as an ISO, no?
 
hdtv267 said:
yeah- but when you're setting up a table as a VIP you'll see if there's a pin that you have as a trader that a member has as an ISO, no?
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Yes. Right now it’s labor intensive. I’m hoping this makes it easier to see what’s in demand. And I’m using it to vote for pins that do not have a lot of people searching for or that I know I have good traders for. I have lots of ISOs that I don’t have any traders for.
 
The one you see during the event set up is just what other VIPs are iso. And I think even just the ones that have set their table so it changes as people start doing that. I think this is a way to know what non-VIPs are interested in. I’m glad to see it as I suggested a while back it would be better to know what no -VIPs want. If I have something a vip wants I can offer it to them so don’t need to put it on my table. But I need non-VIPs to make offers for it so need to put it on my table. I think it’s a great addition.
 

VIP Tradability Stats​

Happy New Year DPF!

We've recently added some trade data to our Pin Details page and I want to get your feedback on it. Is it useful? Is it distracting?
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Tradability Score: An overall score (0-100) based on trade activity, demand, and trading patterns. Higher scores indicate pins that are more sought-after in the trading community.
Trade Power: How this pin trades compared to its rarity. Above 1.0 means it trades for pins of higher rarity; below 1.0 means it trades down.
Demand: Ratio of users seeking this pin (ISO) vs users who have it. Higher means more people want it than have it. (the above example has 418 ISO vs 467 Owned)

Is this valuable information to you?

PinRank: A score reflecting how sought-after this pin has been. Higher scores mean more desirable pins have been traded to acquire it.
This stat will most likely change as I don't know if it offers any more value than the other stats. Something I've been playing around with is a way to improve the Rarity scale to help new traders make "better" offers for listed pins. My hypothesis is that, based on actually traded pins (there's been over 78,000 so far), we might be able to create some sort of a "score range" to help traders know if an offer is more or less likely to be considered or rejected. Is this a worthwhile goal?

I hope everyone has a great 2026!

- Chris @Pin&Pop
 
Chris Nickols said:

VIP Tradability Stats​

Happy New Year DPF!

We've recently added some trade data to our Pin Details page and I want to get your feedback on it. Is it useful? Is it distracting?
tradability-data.png

Tradability Score: An overall score (0-100) based on trade activity, demand, and trading patterns. Higher scores indicate pins that are more sought-after in the trading community.
Trade Power: How this pin trades compared to its rarity. Above 1.0 means it trades for pins of higher rarity; below 1.0 means it trades down.
Demand: Ratio of users seeking this pin (ISO) vs users who have it. Higher means more people want it than have it. (the above example has 418 ISO vs 467 Owned)

Is this valuable information to you?

PinRank: A score reflecting how sought-after this pin has been. Higher scores mean more desirable pins have been traded to acquire it.
This stat will most likely change as I don't know if it offers any more value than the other stats. Something I've been playing around with is a way to improve the Rarity scale to help new traders make "better" offers for listed pins. My hypothesis is that, based on actually traded pins (there's been over 78,000 so far), we might be able to create some sort of a "score range" to help traders know if an offer is more or less likely to be considered or rejected. Is this a worthwhile goal?

I hope everyone has a great 2026!

- Chris @Pin&Pop
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I find it distracting tbh.

Statistics in sports, pin trading are nice to look at , and possibly learn from- but you can put in one of the best quarterbacks statisically and then they have a bad season.
I've spent hours going through tables leading up to a trade arcade compiling a list of prospective trades to offer ( fair market , ISO for ISO, Grail for Grail) and those get declined more often than not. In the long run, I just think it's something else for members to obsess over in setting up tables, adding another layer to an at times grueling process.

The information is appreciated as Pin & Pop is the best Disney pin db out there. Thank you for that, but I'd be happiest if trade arcade turn around was back to 6-7 weeks.

Interesting to read the discussion on this going forward , as I am sure there's alot of agrees and disagrees. But one thing I feel we can agree is a wish to everyone on the site and your loved ones a happy & healthy 2026
 
Chris Nickols said:

VIP Tradability Stats​

Happy New Year DPF!

We've recently added some trade data to our Pin Details page and I want to get your feedback on it. Is it useful? Is it distracting?
tradability-data.png

Tradability Score: An overall score (0-100) based on trade activity, demand, and trading patterns. Higher scores indicate pins that are more sought-after in the trading community.
Trade Power: How this pin trades compared to its rarity. Above 1.0 means it trades for pins of higher rarity; below 1.0 means it trades down.
Demand: Ratio of users seeking this pin (ISO) vs users who have it. Higher means more people want it than have it. (the above example has 418 ISO vs 467 Owned)

Is this valuable information to you?

PinRank: A score reflecting how sought-after this pin has been. Higher scores mean more desirable pins have been traded to acquire it.
This stat will most likely change as I don't know if it offers any more value than the other stats. Something I've been playing around with is a way to improve the Rarity scale to help new traders make "better" offers for listed pins. My hypothesis is that, based on actually traded pins (there's been over 78,000 so far), we might be able to create some sort of a "score range" to help traders know if an offer is more or less likely to be considered or rejected. Is this a worthwhile goal?

I hope everyone has a great 2026!

- Chris @Pin&Pop
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Thank you for providing some background.

I love any data and so this is great. Appreciate the efforts here!

One thought: calculating demand by using the number owned vs wants/ISOs may not be calculating anything substantial. The number owned is what drives demand up or down as pins are removed from the trading market. Owned by definition is not part of supply. Owned is what drives up demand (as more pins are put into permanent collections.) Perhaps owned could provide some insight into how likely a pin will be available for trade. ie, compare the number owned to the LE size to show how likely a pin will come up for trade.

Comparing the amount available in the market (the supply/trade #) to the number the market wants may be a more helpful stat.
 
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For me, the new stats info is distracting but perhaps that's because I've been using the site for so long and I am very comfortable with the way I trade during events. The bits of info I look at for trading are availability, what it's been traded for previously, and what the other traded potentially wants from my traders. I'm not sure this new info will influence my trades whatsoever in the next event but do believe the "Pick your top 12 wanna see at the next event" feature will assist me in trying to decide what to put on a table... if that's what the info is intended for. I am very intrigued by that data. Will VIPs be able to know that info the moment tables are open to set up or do we get that a little sooner? Not sure what other useful info I can possibly have about a pin to make an informed trade other than photos of what the pin looks like prior to trade agreement during the event.
 
I will hold my judgement until after the next trading event, but I do think the Demand stat can be misleading. I think it needs to consider the overall number of people ISO the pin.

This Belle lanyard I have is listed as a high demand with just 18 people iso the item.
Pin & Pop Pin ID: 63318
On the other hand, this cogsworth ear hat pin is listed as a low demand but over 100 people want it. Pin & Pop Pin ID: 76865
If I was just looking at the demand stat, I might expect more people to be interested in the Belle, but that is not the case.
 
Pibbman said:
I will hold my judgement until after the next trading event, but I do think the Demand stat can be misleading. I think it needs to consider the overall number of people ISO the pin.

This Belle lanyard I have is listed as a high demand with just 18 people iso the item.
Pin & Pop Pin ID: 63318
On the other hand, this cogsworth ear hat pin is listed as a low demand but over 100 people want it. Pin & Pop Pin ID: 76865
If I was just looking at the demand stat, I might expect more people to be interested in the Belle, but that is not the case.
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It may be based on the iso vs trade ratio of the item.
 
Pibbman said:
I will hold my judgement until after the next trading event, but I do think the Demand stat can be misleading. I think it needs to consider the overall number of people ISO the pin.

This Belle lanyard I have is listed as a high demand with just 18 people iso the item.
Pin & Pop Pin ID: 63318
On the other hand, this cogsworth ear hat pin is listed as a low demand but over 100 people want it. Pin & Pop Pin ID: 76865
If I was just looking at the demand stat, I might expect more people to be interested in the Belle, but that is not the case.
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I agree, the 'demand' number misleading.

It would be interesting to see the actual math being used to get to this number.

Demand to me is a comparison of:
1) the amount seeking an item (how many want the item)
to
2) the availability of an item (how many are available.)

Demand above is using the number owned in the calculation and I believe this is why the number is misleading.
 
Interesting data, but not something I would analyze when deciding which pins to put on my trading table OR to determine whether or not to accept/offer a trade. Honestly, I think it’s getting too far into the weeds. People use different methods when trading - this data just focuses too much on the mathematical side of it. In conclusion, IMO, it’s a distraction.

Happy 2026!!
 
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