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Pins on Original Card Backing

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Stinkerbell

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So being new to collecting pins is it important to purchase pins that only come with the original card backing? Does this make the value of the pins any more? Grant it I am not planning on making a profit out of this I am planning to have a fun hobby to share with my little ones once they get older.
 
It's really not that big a deal for most pins. There are certain pins (usually low LE), however, that have a slight price increase or drop depending on whether you have the card. If you plan on keeping the pins anyway, and want to display the pins, I would suggest doing so, and just holding onto the cards just in case.
 
I don't really care one way or another. I keep the backing cards just in case - I have an old Disney bag I stick them in - but I believe only pins with special backer cards have any effect on the price, like the Beloved Tales series.
 
Tokaji said:
It's really not that big a deal for most pins. There are certain pins (usually low LE), however, that have a slight price increase or drop depending on whether you have the card. If you plan on keeping the pins anyway, and want to display the pins, I would suggest doing so, and just holding onto the cards just in case.
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Great, Thank You. I can't afford a vacation to the Parks at least for the foreseeable future so most of my pins will be purchased online and I guess I should be looking for those that include the original card backing. The other pins I will probably get are from the Disney Store.
 
AidanShepard said:
I don't really care one way or another. I keep the backing cards just in case - I have an old Disney bag I stick them in - but I believe only pins with special backer cards have any effect on the price, like the Beloved Tales series.
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That makes a ton of sense. Thank You.
 
As you get deeper into this hobby, you will learn more and more about scrapper/counterfeit/overrun pins. There are a couple of sellers who either ARE the factory or get their pins from the factory who have unauthorized LE pins (scrappers or overruns). And they usually sell these without cards. So buying LE pins on cards can be a sign of authenticity. Unfortunately, this is not always true and more and more pins are being sold with packaging that never were sold by Disney first. It's annoying and confusing to longtimers, so even more of a problem for newbies. As a trader, I feel way more comfortable when someone says they purchased by Disney and they have the card then if they removed pins from cards.
 
First, I must say, cute username.

Second, keep the cards. They are more important for LE pins as well as special backer cards (not the generic black ones from the parks). Just label each one with a post-it note as to which pin goes to which backer card, and then put them into a ziploc bag.
 
I agree with everyone, and Jadeite especially about the special backer cards. If it's not a generic black one, I'd hang on to it. I keep all of mine in a shoe box as I much prefer to display them without the cards. But, in the tragic event I'd have to part with some, I'd like to have the cards with them. :)

~Merlin
 
MerlinEmrys said:
I agree with everyone, and Jadeite especially about the special backer cards. If it's not a generic black one, I'd hang on to it. I keep all of mine in a shoe box as I much prefer to display them without the cards. But, in the tragic event I'd have to part with some, I'd like to have the cards with them. :)

~Merlin
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:like: Yup. What Merlin said. I like to display WITHOUT the card, but I keep them "just in case"...
 
hopemax said:
As you get deeper into this hobby, you will learn more and more about scrapper/counterfeit/overrun pins. There are a couple of sellers who either ARE the factory or get their pins from the factory who have unauthorized LE pins (scrappers or overruns). And they usually sell these without cards. So buying LE pins on cards can be a sign of authenticity. Unfortunately, this is not always true and more and more pins are being sold with packaging that never were sold by Disney first. It's annoying and confusing to longtimers, so even more of a problem for newbies. As a trader, I feel way more comfortable when someone says they purchased by Disney and they have the card then if they removed pins from cards.
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So basically you have to live and learn until you figure out who is selling these counterfeit pins? Or is it just best to avoid those people selling or sites like ebay that are selling a ton of pins at a low price with no back cards included. Whenever I have ever purchased anything else on ebay all I have ever had to look at is the seller feedback.

jadeites-lady said:
First, I must say, cute username.

Second, keep the cards. They are more important for LE pins as well as special backer cards (not the generic black ones from the parks). Just label each one with a post-it note as to which pin goes to which backer card, and then put them into a ziploc bag.
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Thank You about the username. I absolutely love Tinker Bell and I am sort of like her in many ways being spoiled rotten and very feisty. That is a great idea for keeping track of what back goes to what pin. I will do just that. I am hoping to get a cork board to display the pins and that will be without the backing cards.

MerlinEmrys said:
I agree with everyone, and Jadeite especially about the special backer cards. If it's not a generic black one, I'd hang on to it. I keep all of mine in a shoe box as I much prefer to display them without the cards. But, in the tragic event I'd have to part with some, I'd like to have the cards with them. :)

~Merlin
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I first want to say I am already getting some fantastic information which is so cool. I will definitely be keeping all of the card backs and labeling them as well.

Thank You everyone.
 
Stinkerbell said:
So basically you have to live and learn until you figure out who is selling these counterfeit pins? Or is it just best to avoid those people selling or sites like ebay that are selling a ton of pins at a low price with no back cards included. Whenever I have ever purchased anything else on ebay all I have ever had to look at is the seller feedback.
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Your best bet is only to get pins either directly from Disney or from a trusted person who buys directly from Disney.

Anything else is potentially fake and a waste of money. Especially on eBay.
 
Jabberwocky said:
Your best bet is only to get pins either directly from Disney or from a trusted person who buys directly from Disney.

Anything else is potentially fake and a waste of money. Especially on eBay.
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Thank You. I unfortunately don't have the money in the foreseeable future to be making a trip to the Disney Parks so that option is out for me. The only other option is the Disney Store or this Shop Disney App that others have been speaking of.
 
Stinkerbell said:
Thank You. I unfortunately don't have the money in the foreseeable future to be making a trip to the Disney Parks so that option is out for me. The only other option is the Disney Store or this Shop Disney App that others have been speaking of.
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That's buying directly from Disney and is the best place to start.

Pins are not a cheap hobby. Best to start small and keep to a budget or you can find yourself spending hundreds or thousands on them and it's best to not do that until you've had time to understand the market and its ebbs and flows along with understanding how much junk is out there.
 
Jabberwocky said:
That's buying directly from Disney and is the best place to start.

Pins are not a cheap hobby. Best to start small and keep to a budget or you can find yourself spending hundreds or thousands on them and it's best to not do that until you've had time to understand the market and its ebbs and flows along with understanding how much junk is out there.
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I am sticking to just getting 3 pins per month and that is only if I can pull it off. Things for my little ones come first and if I can only afford 1 pin a month than that is what it will be. Right now I am thinking of sticking with just Tinker Bell pins.
 
Stinkerbell said:
I am sticking to just getting 3 pins per month and that is only if I can pull it off. Things for my little ones come first and if I can only afford 1 pin a month than that is what it will be. Right now I am thinking of sticking with just Tinker Bell pins.
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Having a focus and sticking to a budget will definitely help you. Sticking to buying pins only from direct sources helps you keep your collection authentic. :)
 
Jabberwocky said:
Having a focus and sticking to a budget will definitely help you. Sticking to buying pins only from direct sources helps you keep your collection authentic. :)
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Sounds like a great plan. This is ultimately for my little ones and they are still little so I have time to build the collection before they really get into it.
 
Even the bad sellers all have hundreds of happy customers. One of the worst has 100% perfect feedback. I will PM of an image that is going around the Facebook groups which does not have the same limitations as this forum does about what can be posted about bad Ebay sellers. The image is a list of usernames to avoid on Ebay. BUT... watch what they are selling and that will give you a great idea of what unauthorized pins are being sold, so when you come along someone who isn't on the list but is selling the same pins you know to steer clear.
 
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Jabberwocky said:
That's buying directly from Disney and is the best place to start.

Pins are not a cheap hobby. Best to start small and keep to a budget or you can find yourself spending hundreds or thousands on them and it's best to not do that until you've had time to understand the market and its ebbs and flows along with understanding how much junk is out there.
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LOL this is how I tried to start, but already went over my budget in both months since I started this hobby T____T *must try to do better in March*
 
Well HOBBY is the key word here for me. I have other key words like PAMPERS, OINTMENT, WIPES, BABY CLOTHES, FOOD, GAS and many others that are necessities before pins even come into the picture for the month. That is the way I am going to approach this hobby each month. What is left over if any can purchase a pin or even multiple pins. We shall see. I will make it fun none the less.
 
Backer cards are important when you start collecting hard to find pins. Especially when the card is a special design. If there are only 300 of that pin, there are only 300 of that card. Its best to keep Disney Shopping, Disney Auctions, WDI, DSF Movie Release cards, and most most important, Beloved Tales cards. It can change a price dramatically. The Wall-E Beloved Tales sells around $140-$180 with a backing card, vs without backing card its worth less than $110.
 
Lots of good info but just a heads up. Nothing that was said is 100% unless you buy from Disney website or walk in to the parks or a Disney store. I posted a few pics a while back that are of LE cards and plastic packaging for sell. So that means anyone can get cards anytime and match to any pin. Make sure you know who you are buying from is your best way to stay safe. Never fall into thinking it must be real due to bla bla bla. Unless it's coming directly from Disney.

WWWDD
 
KT07 said:
Lots of good info but just a heads up. Nothing that was said is 100% unless you buy from Disney website or walk in to the parks or a Disney store. I posted a few pics a while back that are of LE cards and plastic packaging for sell. So that means anyone can get cards anytime and match to any pin. Make sure you know who you are buying from is your best way to stay safe. Never fall into thinking it must be real due to bla bla bla. Unless it's coming directly from Disney.

WWWDD
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So basically what you are saying is EBay and other traders are never 100% and you could still end up getting screwed in the end even after checking pretty much everything?
 
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