Wait, they're not? I am so out of the loop.
That makes total sense, I thought they had done the coronation ceremony. Thanks for letting me know.They're not. The Frozen franchise brings in more $$ alone than it would if the girls were in the Princess line. The coronation ceremony was planned for summer 2014 and was cancelled after the massive frozen success. The girls will still be crowned in the official Disney Princess lineup just not anytime soon.
Isn't it a little too early to be making assumptions like that? I mean, all we have to go on so far is some concept art, some music, and some very small story bits (it taking place in Polynesian culture, featuring gods and demi gods, exploration, and so on). Don't get me wrong, I understand not being excited for it, but it just seems a bit early to be deciding things like if it will be a classic. Then again, its a little too early to be making assumptions about how the doll will look, so I guess I can't say much lol.
Yeah, it's just all assumptions at this point. Of course it's too early to form a hardcore opinion on what the movie is going to be like since it's far from being completed, and certainly wasn't trying to do that. LOL I was just sharing my initial opinions of what they've offered so far, which isn't much granted. I'm just not excited with what I'm seeing and hearing, and these are the little tidbits that are meant to get people excited and wanting more. I'm sure they'll adjust things if they don't get good feedback, and I'm sure we'll see better things in the future. I'm also concerned with them rushing it just to piggyback off of the success of Frozen considering how much they upped the release. I'm really hopeful what we'll see in the future is better. It just seems to me at this point this has less opportunity for the elements of a movie like Frozen, which would be extremely hard to live up to anyway. I think it's hard not to compare her initial drawing to Lilo for the stocky look and Pocahontas with the rather drab attire, and that's a big selling point.
I've certainly been wrong about most of the recent Disney movies. I'm no expert. I just enjoy the movies and dolls and hope the quality improves from the films they made recently prior to Frozen. I'm just being reminded of them in this situation and concerned in the talent and effort being put into it. I think it's been a roller coaster ride since The Lion King (I was a teen when it came out). I was really excited about the movies that followed and the only one I found that wasn't a let down since then was Frozen. Most movies were enjoyable, but not ones I'd really feel I had to watch again, or at least not for several years. The older films felt like masterpieces and the more recent ones felt more generic in a way and quickly (relative to the situation) produced to get a fast profit. They were entertaining enough and better quality than much of what was out there, but to me they just didn't compare to prior films I grew up with. I think it's unreasonable to think Disney can recreate something like Frozen, but I got spoiled in my youth when they came out The Little Mermaid, then Beauty and the Beast, then Aladdin and then The Lion King. I hope Moana is par with them, rather than Brave, The Frog Princess, and etc. I'm just not getting my hopes up at this point.
You make very good points. While I am really excited for the movie, I don't expect it to be nearly as popular or beloved as Frozen, nor do I expect it to be as big of a success. I am also a little worried that it will be effected by the sudden decision to release it next year instead of 2018 like they originally planned. These films always take so long to make, so seeing them deciding to release it this early is a little bit troubling. However, I am still really excited for it. What little information they showed off at D23 made it one of my most anticipated films of next year. I can only hope that it will be good. Either way, its always fun and interesting to see Disney make a film outside of their comfort zone (european princesses). And I am really looking forward to seeing what her doll will look like (if they make one, which I am sure they will)!
Ya know, no big Diamond Edition release is scheduled for next year aside from Pinocchio. Unless they decide to do a Blue Fairy doll or something, could Moana be the only 17" doll we get next year? I don't see how they could release any others unless they find a way to do yet more Frozen dolls like Hans or they do one for Alice Through the Looking Glass or another live action film.
Yeah, I completely agree with you on Disney getting out of their comfort zone with the princesses. I really am hoping Moana does well for that reason if nothing else. I just have a hard time getting excited under the circumstances. Honestly, I was more excited before they released the most recent images. The movie could be really beautiful with the Polynesian backgrounds. I admit I'm cynical and I do apologize for that. I try not to be too negative. I've just been so excited and so let down that I try not to get too excited. I went to Frozen without any expectation and I'm sure had it been otherwise the experience would have been different. I remember seeing the Brave promos in the theater and I just couldn't wait for it. I thought that was the one I'd been waiting for since The Lion King, and was completely shocked at how different it ended up being from what the promos led me to think. I'm sure I'd have enjoyed it more if I'd not seen any promos and got my hopes up for it by comparing it to the those movies I grew up with. I think that was the last one I got really worked up for.
Moana's got one extra year than Frozen for development. Frozen had two and Moana is going to be in it's third year of production next year. I have to say to those nay-sayers about the quality of the film: the art that I've seen looks amazing.
This is our villain. She looks so awesome and terrifying.
I'm not saying it's going to be as beloved as Frozen. I love Frozen to death, but I will admit I hold BH6 as an overall better film. The only thing Frozen has over BH6 in my opinion is characters/character development and music. But I collect characters, not films, and therefore my collection is geared toward Anna and a little Elsa and Kristoff. So, for me collecting Moana will really come down to the characters of the film.
I completely understand. It always feel awful to get really excited for a movie, and then have it turn out disappointing. My most recent example of that would probably be Big Hero 6. I got really excited for that movie, and it wasn't as good as I wanted it to be in the end. I did like the world and characters, but it felt like there was a lot of missed opportunities with the overall film and it even felt generic to me in a lot of ways (would have liked to have seen more merch for it though). I am really excited for Moana, but I guess I am trying not to get TOO excited. I should probably wait until I at least see the first trailer before that happens lol.
That was one of the pieces of concept art that got me hyped. Seriously, I need a trailer for this thing! The music they previewed was wonderful as well. As for the development time, I didn't realize that it had an extra year of development time. That kind of makes me feel better about it being released so soon. Not to mention that Frozen went through around 2 or 3 script re-writes during that time, and it turned out alright in the end. Gotta be optimistic without getting too excited I suppose!
Before Snow White was released in 1937 the public reacted with cynicism, calling it "Disney's Folly" while the studio was fixing to run into the ground with millions in debt from the expense of the production. And yet...today it is the most culturally relevant film in the Disney franchise and a beloved classic (not to mention Snow White is a top Disney Princess and The Evil Queen still one of the best loved villains).
You saw the PBS special on Walt Disney, too, I take it, lol?
Ugh that is wonderful and terrible at the same time! I absolutely adore Aladdin, but the one picture I had seen wasn't great... but some of these are so amazing I really want him. :cry:Surprised no one has mentioned this here, but Radio Disney Club revealed some new info on the wedding platinum set. It will be LE 250, and the box will be similar to the wedding Cinderella doll box where it has two flaps that open up to reveal the doll inside. It will also have green, blue and gold coloring on the box similar to the Art of Jasmine merch. Its apparently scheduled to release the same day as the Diamond Edition, but other sources say the release date is November 11th, which is the 23rd anniversary of Aladdin. Remember that all of this is still a rumor, so take it with a grain of salt. Even though I don't plan on buying it (even if I wanted to, I can't afford it and its probably gonna sell out really fast anyways), I am really interested to see what it looks like. I bet its going to be gorgeous!
We also got some really nice pictures of Aladdin! I think he is going to look fantastic in person.
You saw the PBS special on Walt Disney, too, I take it, lol?
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