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Limited Edition 17" Collector Dolls Information
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I feel like that's probably fake- at least the cover art. In the Diamond editions, they've been putting the film titles along the left side, not at the bottom.
I think the fact that there is no information on the next doll makes the wait moreso antagonizing! LOL
i tried emailing them for more info on the next doll and no one knew anything. I def think (and hope) we get a surprise release doll at the same time as the DVD release on the 5th of Feb. Can't wait!
I do wish we had more info though like who it will be or a hint or something to confirm the rumors!
i tried emailing them for more info on the next doll and no one knew anything. I def think (and hope) we get a surprise release doll at the same time as the DVD release on the 5th of Feb. Can't wait!
I do wish we had more info though like who it will be or a hint or something to confirm the rumors!
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Hey all, this is my first post here, yet I've been keeping an eye on this forum for info for so long. Woot Woot! 
Now to business. :I
This is what *I* want to see this year. Personally, I don't really care to collect the princesses. They are great and all, yeay hooray, lovely, but after their movie is out and about...they sort of enter the "oonnee ooff uuss" and "pretty princess" mode. I collect and adore the Disney Villains. I LOVE them so much. They are first introduced in their movie and simply steal the show. Sure, I'd love me some Naveen, but I'd rather burst in to flames, wear lavish and glorious garments, and rule by my own rules. The villains are so vast and are so unknown. To quote the musical Wicked, "Are people born Wicked? Or do they have wickedness thrust upon them?" I LOVE the villains because of the psychology that is behind them, the levels of motivation, and all the glorious (untapped) potential they have. Going a step further, until last year, there really were no villain merchandise. It was like an after thought if you found them anywhere. The princess merchandise has become a dime a dozen and anywhere you look. The villains, nope. They are SO rare and, therefore, so valuable to me. I have the Mother Gothel, Queen of Hearts, and Lady Tremaine 17" dolls and just love them.
That's my (condensed) ranting and raving about why I LOVE the villains and why these 17" dolls what I want to see this year (and eventually).
Wicked Queen (Surprise Release)
(This is supposed to be the 75th Anniversary of Snow White. They released the Snow White doll for the blue ray, why not the one originally the fairest in the land during the anniversary? In crazy doll collector mentality, they "owe" us the companion piece to Snow White. In reality, it just makes sense. It's the anniversary, people would be in an angry riot if they released the same or a new Snow White, and it really does seem to be the "season of the villain".
Captain Hook (Surprise Release when the Blue Ray comes out)
(Come on. The trend of the villain appearing along side the hero will hopefully continue. Sure, the boys get forgotten by Disney and therefore don't really get the spotlight. But...I would dare the Disney company to provide me with more than one reason an LE Captain Hook doll wouldn't sell out. The only valid reason being that they did a horrible job in creating it...but I still think a bad job at creating him as a doll would still sell out. Plus, they really could use the same rolls of fabric they've used for the 3 currently released villains to create his outfit, hat, and hair. All they'd need to invest in would be a new body mold, head mold, metal scraps, shoes, and feathers and...BAM! He could be created and should be.)
Wicked Witch (Released sometime with either the movie in theater or the movie on Blue Ray)
(Now, this movie has nothing to do with the musical Wicked and *technically* doesn't have a real connection to the MGM Wizard of Oz. It is supposed to be a "prequel" of sorts that tells the story of how the Wizard came to be, but MGM makes sure everyone knows that they own the rights to the first movie with Judy Garland. Even with all that being said...Disney would be a huge fool not to try to profit on this character. People that aren't really Disney fans would want a Wicked Witch doll from this Heirloom Collection. Even as I type this, I feel like it would be a stretch. Not just because she kind of doesn't belong with the other "Disney Villains" and because she's so attributed to a totally different franchise and universe...but because of the fact that she would have an actress's likeness. If the rumors are true, Amy Adams is why we don't have Giselle anywhere. She argued that Giselle was based on her likeness, so therefore she was owed a percentage of profit for all the merchandise. Sure, they are creating the "Disney Movie Collection" and hopefully created a new rule in the contract stating something that gets them out of that problem...but still. I want one, but I feel she's not that likely.)
Ursula (Surprise Release when the Blue Ray comes out)
(Again, she's a no brainer when it comes to a villain that people would buy up in a heart beat. She would be an absolute beast to box, but so worth it. Plus visually, she'd be a fantastic break from all the sea of reds that the current villains are wearing. Now, I know a lot of people are saying they'd love to see a Vanessa and how rare and different that would be. I don't deny that in the slightest. But really? Could you imagine your collection with Ursula as Vanessa? I think it would be too much of a break and an oddity. Plus, she only has two possible outfits really: the peasant dress and the wedding dress. Neither fit the iconic "image" of Ursula. I hope they perch her in her box in all her glory, tentacles twisted, (ideally) Flotsam and Jetsam draped across her shoulders like a shall, the flowing hair, the purple skin, and that great big grin. If she doesn't fit...then get creative. She'll fit.)
The Snow Queen (Screw it, announce her.)
(The concept art just looks gorgeous. To not create her just seems like a huge waste of time and profit.)
And as for the hopefully soon...
Jafar (Surprise Release 2014)
(The classic doll looks like a flop. BUT! That one is ideally for a child's playtime and not an adult's "pretty pretty collection". So, I think it was a success in it's own right. But a Jafar in this Heirloom collection quality? That would be GLORIOUS!!
Maleficent *CARTOON VERSION* (Good Lord Hopefully Soon! Maybe Angelina's movie will push the doll creators to make the cartoon one as a reminder of the first incarnation?)
(Honestly, I feel like the world will hear the running footsteps of fans to the stores and the fans online clicking their keyboards for her. She's my ultimate goal and will be my center piece WHEN they finally release her. I just hope and pray that they make her gown-robe correctly. It's basically supposed to be a HUGE "poncho" with tons and tons of fabric. I want a Maleficent doll released for this Heirloom collection SO VERY MUCH! And, if I like the new movie...then maybe an LE version, but I'm fine with just a new classic doll added to the "Disney Movie Collection".)
Yzma (Random Surprise Release)
(Come on. How freaking fun and amazing would that be? They always give the dolls these exaggerated and oversized lashes...she had them. They give their garbs these elaborate and ornate liberties...she had those too. A doll of Yzma in that first outfit she was ever seen in would be so truly epic.)
Cruella DeVil (Random Surprise Release)
(Again, how absolutely stunning would that be? They could use the same skinny body mold for Yzma (or vise versa). She is the Disney Diva so focused on fashion and glamor and extravagance. So, that only means that they could create such a BEAUTIFUL doll of her.)
Hades (Random Surprise Release)
(How could he not sell out when it comes to us collectors?)
Dr. Facillier (Random Surprise Release)
(Even his box could be amazingly designed with the shadow creatures all around him.)
Narissa (Most likely never gonna happen, but oh my, she'd be a surprise)
(Considering they are creating a "Disney Movie Collection", maybe they fixed the alleged "Amy Adams Problem". Narissa was just drop dead gorgeous in cartoon form and live action. So an Heirloom doll of her...PRICELESS!)
Sure there are a lot more villains out there, but the ones I listed are the ones I really hope they create within the next few years.
And now, even though I love the Villains. There are only two non-Villains that I would LOVE to have in this quality.
The Blue Fairy
Esmeralda
Seriously, they are just such beautiful characters and there is no merchandise out there representing them! Esmeralda just brings me to tears with her song and heart, and the Blue Fairy is basically a huge heart and looks like my mother.
Yeah, that was a huge long rant and rave. If you are still here with me. I thank you. Thoughts?
Now to business. :I
This is what *I* want to see this year. Personally, I don't really care to collect the princesses. They are great and all, yeay hooray, lovely, but after their movie is out and about...they sort of enter the "oonnee ooff uuss" and "pretty princess" mode. I collect and adore the Disney Villains. I LOVE them so much. They are first introduced in their movie and simply steal the show. Sure, I'd love me some Naveen, but I'd rather burst in to flames, wear lavish and glorious garments, and rule by my own rules.
The villains are so vast and are so unknown. To quote the musical Wicked, "Are people born Wicked? Or do they have wickedness thrust upon them?" I LOVE the villains because of the psychology that is behind them, the levels of motivation, and all the glorious (untapped) potential they have. Going a step further, until last year, there really were no villain merchandise. It was like an after thought if you found them anywhere. The princess merchandise has become a dime a dozen and anywhere you look. The villains, nope. They are SO rare and, therefore, so valuable to me. I have the Mother Gothel, Queen of Hearts, and Lady Tremaine 17" dolls and just love them. That's my (condensed) ranting and raving about why I LOVE the villains and why these 17" dolls what I want to see this year (and eventually).
Wicked Queen (Surprise Release)
(This is supposed to be the 75th Anniversary of Snow White. They released the Snow White doll for the blue ray, why not the one originally the fairest in the land during the anniversary? In crazy doll collector mentality, they "owe" us the companion piece to Snow White. In reality, it just makes sense. It's the anniversary, people would be in an angry riot if they released the same or a new Snow White, and it really does seem to be the "season of the villain".
Captain Hook (Surprise Release when the Blue Ray comes out)
(Come on. The trend of the villain appearing along side the hero will hopefully continue. Sure, the boys get forgotten by Disney and therefore don't really get the spotlight. But...I would dare the Disney company to provide me with more than one reason an LE Captain Hook doll wouldn't sell out. The only valid reason being that they did a horrible job in creating it...but I still think a bad job at creating him as a doll would still sell out. Plus, they really could use the same rolls of fabric they've used for the 3 currently released villains to create his outfit, hat, and hair. All they'd need to invest in would be a new body mold, head mold, metal scraps, shoes, and feathers and...BAM! He could be created and should be.)
Wicked Witch (Released sometime with either the movie in theater or the movie on Blue Ray)
(Now, this movie has nothing to do with the musical Wicked and *technically* doesn't have a real connection to the MGM Wizard of Oz. It is supposed to be a "prequel" of sorts that tells the story of how the Wizard came to be, but MGM makes sure everyone knows that they own the rights to the first movie with Judy Garland. Even with all that being said...Disney would be a huge fool not to try to profit on this character. People that aren't really Disney fans would want a Wicked Witch doll from this Heirloom Collection. Even as I type this, I feel like it would be a stretch. Not just because she kind of doesn't belong with the other "Disney Villains" and because she's so attributed to a totally different franchise and universe...but because of the fact that she would have an actress's likeness. If the rumors are true, Amy Adams is why we don't have Giselle anywhere. She argued that Giselle was based on her likeness, so therefore she was owed a percentage of profit for all the merchandise. Sure, they are creating the "Disney Movie Collection" and hopefully created a new rule in the contract stating something that gets them out of that problem...but still. I want one, but I feel she's not that likely.)
Ursula (Surprise Release when the Blue Ray comes out)
(Again, she's a no brainer when it comes to a villain that people would buy up in a heart beat. She would be an absolute beast to box, but so worth it. Plus visually, she'd be a fantastic break from all the sea of reds that the current villains are wearing. Now, I know a lot of people are saying they'd love to see a Vanessa and how rare and different that would be. I don't deny that in the slightest. But really? Could you imagine your collection with Ursula as Vanessa? I think it would be too much of a break and an oddity. Plus, she only has two possible outfits really: the peasant dress and the wedding dress. Neither fit the iconic "image" of Ursula. I hope they perch her in her box in all her glory, tentacles twisted, (ideally) Flotsam and Jetsam draped across her shoulders like a shall, the flowing hair, the purple skin, and that great big grin. If she doesn't fit...then get creative. She'll fit.)
The Snow Queen (Screw it, announce her.)
(The concept art just looks gorgeous. To not create her just seems like a huge waste of time and profit.)
And as for the hopefully soon...
Jafar (Surprise Release 2014)
(The classic doll looks like a flop. BUT! That one is ideally for a child's playtime and not an adult's "pretty pretty collection". So, I think it was a success in it's own right. But a Jafar in this Heirloom collection quality? That would be GLORIOUS!!
Maleficent *CARTOON VERSION* (Good Lord Hopefully Soon! Maybe Angelina's movie will push the doll creators to make the cartoon one as a reminder of the first incarnation?)
(Honestly, I feel like the world will hear the running footsteps of fans to the stores and the fans online clicking their keyboards for her. She's my ultimate goal and will be my center piece WHEN they finally release her. I just hope and pray that they make her gown-robe correctly. It's basically supposed to be a HUGE "poncho" with tons and tons of fabric. I want a Maleficent doll released for this Heirloom collection SO VERY MUCH! And, if I like the new movie...then maybe an LE version, but I'm fine with just a new classic doll added to the "Disney Movie Collection".)
Yzma (Random Surprise Release)
(Come on. How freaking fun and amazing would that be? They always give the dolls these exaggerated and oversized lashes...she had them. They give their garbs these elaborate and ornate liberties...she had those too. A doll of Yzma in that first outfit she was ever seen in would be so truly epic.)
Cruella DeVil (Random Surprise Release)
(Again, how absolutely stunning would that be? They could use the same skinny body mold for Yzma (or vise versa). She is the Disney Diva so focused on fashion and glamor and extravagance. So, that only means that they could create such a BEAUTIFUL doll of her.)
Hades (Random Surprise Release)
(How could he not sell out when it comes to us collectors?)
Dr. Facillier (Random Surprise Release)
(Even his box could be amazingly designed with the shadow creatures all around him.)
Narissa (Most likely never gonna happen, but oh my, she'd be a surprise)
(Considering they are creating a "Disney Movie Collection", maybe they fixed the alleged "Amy Adams Problem". Narissa was just drop dead gorgeous in cartoon form and live action. So an Heirloom doll of her...PRICELESS!)
Sure there are a lot more villains out there, but the ones I listed are the ones I really hope they create within the next few years.
And now, even though I love the Villains. There are only two non-Villains that I would LOVE to have in this quality.
The Blue Fairy
Esmeralda
Seriously, they are just such beautiful characters and there is no merchandise out there representing them! Esmeralda just brings me to tears with her song and heart, and the Blue Fairy is basically a huge heart and looks like my mother.
Yeah, that was a huge long rant and rave. If you are still here with me. I thank you.
Thoughts?
Yeah I agree with you, although I wouldn't buy The Evil Queen, I'm definitely in for Ursula, Snow Queen and Maleficent. I'm super curious to know if they'll dare to make a Surprise Ursula LE doll, since when speaking of our favorite voluptuous Villains (Ursula and Queen of Hearts), they create them in a slim persona, like in the Designer collection and the LE Queen of Hearts. My question is, will they invest the money to create a new body mold for a 17in doll or will they create another slim and artistical interpretation of her for the doll. Either way I'm will buy it. Also if they go for the choice to create a regular Ursula they would also have to make modifications to the box. I doubt she'll fit in a regular one.
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I think what they could also use is more of a plush body but that is till top-notch quality. back in 1997 Mattel released this Ursula doll but in 12" form. Maybe they can do the same with the 17" LE one.
I completely agree, but I think the idea of a Vanessa doll would not be unlikely at all. They have already created an Ursula doll in 'Designer' form, and they have never done one of Vanessa, so it would make her much more exclusive, as well as saving them trouble with the whole box issues. She would go perfectly with Ariel.
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I don't think a Vanessa doll is in any way likely -- I wouldn't rule it out totally -- but I can't see them doing a LE doll for such a minor character (Ursula was only briefly in that form). I think it's much more likely that they'll do 2 different Ariels.
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I think Vanessa would be a hit. True she is only a minor character but she has a very big fan base and there is literally no merchandise for her other than a handful of pins. I think Disney would make her so, as others said, they wouldn't have to deal with the costs of creating a new body mold. I think Vanessa would sell out very quickly personally. I would also love a Yzma doll. She is such a diva and again I think she would sell very well because she is popular with fans and there is really no merchandise for her. I find it funny how she(and Lady Tremaine) were excluded from the Designer collection and they are the only 2 villainesses who wear more than one outfit in their films.
I think Ariel in human form as a regular release, and Vanessa as the surprise release would be great. Although people want Ariel as a mermaid obviously and Ursula in her normal form too. I think they need to just make them all.
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I personally don't see Vanessa as being successful. Unless she's LE 250 or something ridiculously low!! Calhoun, who was one of the main characters of a brand new, hit film, sat on the website for over a month with one of the lowest LE numbers of all time! Vanessa would have to be extremely low to be plausible in my opinion! But she would look totally awesome lol
I think Vanessa would be extremely popular, I know a lot of Disney fans have been wanting her for years. Maybe the reason Calhoun wasn't as popular is because she's not your typical LE doll and perhaps didn't fit into peoples collections very well. She's my fav LE though
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I would be more excited for a Vanessa doll than an Ariel doll. . There is hardly any merch for her...I would love a doll of her in the outfit she wore while singing on the beach with the shell necklace that contains Ariel's voice.
And even though I am collecting these dolls I had no interest on the Sargeant Calhoun...she is in a weird box and doesn't really fit with the rest of the collection (in my opinion).
. There is hardly any merch for her...I would love a doll of her in the outfit she wore while singing on the beach with the shell necklace that contains Ariel's voice. And even though I am collecting these dolls I had no interest on the Sargeant Calhoun...she is in a weird box and doesn't really fit with the rest of the collection (in my opinion).
Speaking of...anyone notice how she was up for months...sold out...then popped back up today? (Sold out now)
I thought that was odd. Maybe they gathered up the international dolls and opened them up for US sale? Was she sold in stores too?
I dunno what it is...I think her hair was too "Barbie" for her character, plus her gun took up half the box. I thoroughly enjoyed her character and did enjoy the movie...but the doll didn't really do anything for me. (True story, I *almost* bought the doll just because it was Jane Lynch. SO CLOSE just because it was her.)
So...anyone think that they will do anything special with a *Princess* Vanelope when the movie comes out? They have no merchandise anywhere with her as (technically one of the newest Disney Princesses) Princess Vanelope. I think it would have made a more "visually fitting with the rest of the collection" LE doll. Who knows what Disney will and will not capitalize on these days?
I thought that was odd. Maybe they gathered up the international dolls and opened them up for US sale? Was she sold in stores too?
I dunno what it is...I think her hair was too "Barbie" for her character, plus her gun took up half the box. I thoroughly enjoyed her character and did enjoy the movie...but the doll didn't really do anything for me. (True story, I *almost* bought the doll just because it was Jane Lynch. SO CLOSE just because it was her.)
So...anyone think that they will do anything special with a *Princess* Vanelope when the movie comes out? They have no merchandise anywhere with her as (technically one of the newest Disney Princesses) Princess Vanelope. I think it would have made a more "visually fitting with the rest of the collection" LE doll. Who knows what Disney will and will not capitalize on these days?
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I am surprised no information has leaked yet, usually we know the pre-order date by now for the main spring release as it is usually a date in late January. Do we still think it will be Jasmine?
I am still hoping for a surprise Wendy too, but I doubt they are doing anything for Peter Pan.
My opinion on Vanessa is that it is unlikely-most (non-Disney crazed) people don't even know who she is-I would love her-but I think odds are slim, but I don't think sculpt or box size has anything to do with Ursula, they have the Marvel license and put out a Ralph doll which requires large bodies and detailed sculpts. This line is supposed to be high quality, I don't know why Disney doesn't go all out on these dolls.
I am still hoping for a surprise Wendy too, but I doubt they are doing anything for Peter Pan.
My opinion on Vanessa is that it is unlikely-most (non-Disney crazed) people don't even know who she is-I would love her-but I think odds are slim, but I don't think sculpt or box size has anything to do with Ursula, they have the Marvel license and put out a Ralph doll which requires large bodies and detailed sculpts. This line is supposed to be high quality, I don't know why Disney doesn't go all out on these dolls.
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You guys bring up some good points about Calhoun, and how she doesn't really fit in with the rest of the line! I hadn't really thought of her that way.
I hadn't really thought of her that way.
The companion doll doesn't have to be a villain, people seem to have made that up for themselves.
I'd like them to completely redesign Ariel's face so she has larger eyes, fine eyebrows and an accurate nose/profile. Also a correct side parting...
I'd like them to completely redesign Ariel's face so she has larger eyes, fine eyebrows and an accurate nose/profile. Also a correct side parting...
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